It's No Deal, It's a Sellout

“Extraordinary deal”?? We just saved 6 days of borrowing at current deficit rates. I call it extraordinarily BAD.

Let me see if I have this straight. $38 billion is six says.

$61 billion is what? Ten? Eleven says? We are talking about pennies here.

The meat is the debt ceiling...the Ryan Budget. This is the fight!

Anyone who is worried about the difference between $38 billion and $61 billion or $100 billion is as short sighted as a Democrat who thinks he can spend as much as he likes into infinity.

I said: The fight starts now.

Now is where we should be focused. Obviously, if Boehner does't see this, he will prove to be as worthless a speaker as Gingrich proved to be.

The humorous part is Gingrich thinks he is Presidential timber. How does Boehner see himself?

Freepers are crying because he got 1% instead of an ultra-conservative Tea Party approved 2%?

My experience tells me that MOST freepers think this is a long fight to the death. I wanted $100,000,000, not 61 and not 38.

Nevertheless, the real fight starts now. Before we condemn Boehner to Hades, let's see what he is made of.

Exactly, Tea Part is crying because he sold the American people out and took “ defunding health care” off the table, etc, and when promising to cut 100 billion from the existing budget, he took a cop out of 38 billion, if that is really the amount! We just paid in over 52 billion in interest on the budget. Washington keeps on being Washington! Here is your crumb, now sit down and shut up and let the progressives continue to take your government away from you, after all they know what is best for you!

It strikes me that you’re saying that NOTHING - $38 billion or $61 billion - matters.

Not at all. I think Boehner got the best for the moment, and should keep pushing for more from here on holding the debt ceiling battle. If we don't have the GOP's back in the debt limit debate coming up, then Shumer and Obama will roll us all.

The overwhelming complaint on FR seems to be that Boehner didn't meet the Tea Party demands...that he "caved."

And yet, for this particular round, I can't find any TEA PARTY CANDIDATE'S proposal or demand of Boehner beyond about $60 billion in "cuts."

So my question is, among all the blood-curdling cries of "Vote Boehner Out, He Caved!"....is...ok, if he had not "caved" and the Tea Party candidates had got all they asked for, they'd still only have made a minor dent in the deficit.

Yeah, sure. Most freepers want a shutdown for 2 years, save $7 trillion, or $2T in cuts this week, etc. Except that that is NOT what any Tea Party candidate asked for!

I just don't trust anyone who puts themselves on the same side as Reid Obama and Durbin and Pelosi in wanting Boehner to lose his job. It doesn't make sense.

So my question is, among all the blood-curdling cries of “Vote Boehner Out, He Caved!”....is...ok, if he had not “caved” and the Tea Party candidates had got all they asked for, they’d still only have made a minor dent in the deficit.

Yeah, sure. Most freepers want a shutdown for 2 years, save $7 trillion, or $2T in cuts this week, etc. Except that that is NOT what any Tea Party candidate asked for!

sam, I think you are making a little bit of a straw man argument.

It’s fair enough to criticize the deal without calling for Boehner to be removed as Speaker. What is bad about the deal, besides it being a paltry reduction, is that the Repukes took the only weapon they really have off the table — shutting down the gubmint.

Who will believe them if they try to block the debt ceiling increase? If they aren’t willing to go “all the way” now, then when?

As for Boehner specifically, he was some sort of middling compromise candidate for Speaker to begin with. The Demoviks got control of the House and went right for the throat making a real leftie from their most leftie district Speaker.

“Our” side could have countered 4 years later with Bachmann but the Repukes are timid, rubber-legged and feckless.

The fact is, whether we stand by them or not, the Repuke is an endangered species. We’re too near Oblivion now as a nation to imagine that “compromising” with Marxists is a meaningful strategy. Marxism has to be overthrown. Not negotiated into a lesser evil.

All that said, I hope Boehner justifies your faith in him and can deliver something meaningful between now and the end — or, the re-birth.

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