Posted on 04/09/2011 9:43:39 AM PDT by Confab
Huge? The Dems are already on the record supporting it. I understand that the vote is on defunding the implementation of Obamacare for just this fiscal year. It will just be a pro-forma vote. I assume that there will need to be 60 votes for cloture just to get a vote on the bill.
“ep,
Even Yogi can figure this out “it ain’t over till it’s over”
Yep
She has already voted for Obamacare as has Nelson, Tester, etc. They passed it.
Reid only allowed a floor vote because he is confident the republicans will piss themselves, cry, and ultimately cave on the issue... which is EXACTLY what they did on the budget issue.
The only reason to be “optimistic” is if you’re a liberal.
The cloture vote is the key. 41 safe Democrats or Democrats not up for election can block a vote on the bill while allowing the vulnerable Democrats to vote for cloture and say they tried to the voters. I believe this is Reid and Obama’s strategy and we will have gained nothing.
Oh please they will simply say they are for “modifications” to make it better. Charlie Brown Republicans are fools or collaborators. i am thinking the latter.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, agreed to remove the Planned Parenthood provision in exchange for an agreement that would allow Congress to take up the funding issue separately.The Republicans also won inclusion of a provision that will require the Senate to vote on a bill to de-fund the health care reform law.
The words that defeated Bush 41. But what is left out is that he had a deal, a promise that if he would sign on the taxes, they, the Dems would reduce expenditures by a like amount. Well, Bush complied with the deal, he Dems lied - they didn't reduce spending a dime. You cannot trust a democrat.
The House, under Boehner, already voted to repeal.
Through negotiations Boehner won the right to have it voted on in the Senate, something that'd never happen otherwise.
How is that not "anything serious"?
The cranks and trolls are out in force today.
I don't like the concessions anymore than others, but the dems are going to have to expose themselves on abortion and Obamacare BEFORE the next election.
You can bet the cameras will be rolling and their (dems) foolish rhetoric, will be in all the campaign ads.
I think his was a good move.
Folks, some of you are missing the point. The reason that Reid wasn’t going to let the vote on repeal come to the floor was because then the Dems would be on record for voting for it once again after the clear cut dismay by the American people against it. It has virtually no possibility of passing, but the negative ramifications for those voting against repeal, especially in swing states, are HUGE going into the next election. Every Dem pick up in the Senate would be enormous.
The electorate was furious last election. This fury will only be augmented by this vote. Coupled w/ the battle royale that is sure to be on the fiscal 2012 budget, we could very well see a landslide that would be unparalleled in recent history. Think long term folks, not just about today. Winning battles is one thing, winning the war is quite another. Strategically speaking, sometimes losing a small battle helps win the war.
Reid giving in on Obamacare is beyond my wildest dreams. Without this deal, that repeal would have never seen daylight. That IS huge.
For those that state that Reid won’t let it come to the floor anyways, the repercussions would be equally disastrous for the Dems. Either way, we win. Reid has painted he & his party into a box.
Then the battle cry will be.....how can we vote for this Dem, even though they voted for the repeal, when they back the party that stopped it?
IT’S NO DEAL, IT’S A SELLOUT
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/its-no-deal-its-a-sellout/
Listen to what Mark Levin had to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffG-0IZF4bY&feature=share
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