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Deal falls short of GOP cut pledge; 'As good as we could get,' says Boehner (We lost!)
The Hill ^ | Saturday April 9, 2011 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 04/08/2011 10:15:07 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

The bipartisan deal struck Friday falls short of the House Republican campaign pledge to cut $100 billion in fiscal 2011 spending.

The pact cuts $78.5 billion when compared to President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget request, which was never enacted.

The accord cuts $39 billion in actual spending, $22 billion less than bill the House passed in February.

In a brief interview, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, said he expects "significant" opposition from conservatives, both to the short-term fix and the long-term spending bill. He said he will vote against both

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: boehner; byeboehner; kenyanarsehole; kenyanvillagefraud; obama; palin; shutdown; soetorohasaids; sorossidiot
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To: Redmen4ever
It’s not clear next week’s bill will pass. There will be defections both by conservative Republicans (who say the cuts are insufficient) and progressive Democrats (who say the cuts go to far). This is why every seat counts. We need to increase the Republican majority and increase our presence within the Republican majority. Wisconsin is the key. If we can balance the budget without tax increases in that state, we can do the same thing at the federal level. The country is not hopelessly lost. We have to soldier on. This is our gerenation’s Valley Forge.

Well said. Every single true fiscal conservative in the House counts. Every single vote on the conservative side pushes the overall result in the right direction.

161 posted on 04/09/2011 7:46:57 AM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: screaminsunshine

Libertains can’t win a race for dog catcher....their legalize drugs and anti-war stands doom them to forever being a fringe outliner.


162 posted on 04/09/2011 7:48:07 AM PDT by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: Bigtigermike
Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."

Sweet. This bodes well for the 2012 budget battle doesn't it.

163 posted on 04/09/2011 7:50:54 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Exactly.

Amazing cuts when faced with obama and the democratically controlled senate.

More to follow, as the rats folded much, much more than the republicans did.


164 posted on 04/09/2011 7:56:46 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Longbow1969

Spot on.

Well said.


165 posted on 04/09/2011 7:57:55 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Minus_The_Bear
In 2003 Boehner was raising the debt by a factor not seen since LBJ.

Boehner wasn't the Speaker in 2003...just sayin'...

166 posted on 04/09/2011 8:02:46 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: nonliberal

Not the US military.

The impact of no paycheck would have been enormous. The hit on morale would have been devastating, as guys in combat would be worrying about mom and the kids back home and keeping the home and feeding them.


167 posted on 04/09/2011 8:06:38 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: billva

Indeed. The “I want everything or I will take my ball (vote) and stay home” approach guarantees a win for the opposition—every time.


168 posted on 04/09/2011 8:09:51 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: bert

“I suppose you would have been the British officer that ordered the charge of the Light Brigade. A charge into the cannons on both sides of the dead ended valley will only chew up and make a bloody pulp of fine cavalry.”

How **exactly** does pushing for larger cuts, and shutting down the government for few days to let the dems feel the heat and seriousness of the situation kill our troops?

Or, if you meant the above analogy figuratively, how **exactly** does pushing for larger cuts as I’ve explained “chew up and make a bloody pulp” of our figurative “fine cavalry”?

The implication of your assertion is that a Republican hard push to cut spending is self-destructive. I ask you to observe that the **lack** of a Republican hard push to cut spending is self-destructive. Those within the American Right that want to compromise are self-destructive to the American Right.

Are you among those that want to compromise?

Second question: Who is this “fine cavalry” you speak of?

Hal Rogers?

Lindsey Graham?

John McCain?

If this is the “fine cavalry” that we make concessions to preserve, then I submit that “cavalry” is expendable. Why are these people tolerated in the Republican Party?

Are all of the Republican appropriators that were **forced** into the rhetorical place they are today by “extremists” like me “fine cavalry”?

I’m a little puzzled by how you feel your analogy holds water in the face of these two apparent inconsistencies.

“The basic assumption, a win, is fallacious.”

What? This sentence doesn’t even make sense. A win is fallacious? What the hell does that mean?

“Kill what you can, while you can and make the cavalry charge on better ground.”

He who cannot be trusted in small things should not be trusted in large things.

Going forward, Republicans, and the American Right in general need to learn the following phrase:

“Not good enough.”

It describes the deal Republicans made: We agree with them in principle. They were on the right side. They did fight the good fight, and they did achieve some things. But, unfortunately good is the enemy of great. Those who settle for good will never want to try to for great. In short, it was not good enough.

“It’s not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what’s required.” -Winston Churchill


169 posted on 04/09/2011 8:35:51 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Bigtigermike

Next comes the debt ceiling: now, we’re talking big money!


170 posted on 04/09/2011 8:47:37 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: screaminsunshine

Now watch as all the “conservatives” try to talk you out of any alternative to the Republican Party!

Check out Tea Party Nation’s take, fairly spot on:

http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/surrender-by-any-other-name

What exactly about no compromise do some people not understand?


171 posted on 04/09/2011 9:02:41 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Hulka
Amazing cuts when faced with obama and the democratically controlled senate.

"Cuts"? What exactly do you mean by cuts?

The 2010 budget was 3.5 trillion. The 2011 budget, which became Boehner's budget because the Democrats never passed one, will now be 3.6 trillion.

That's not a cut.

That's an increase.

It's now at an all time high.

It's even higher than the 2010 "stimulus" budget that included a 1 trillion dollar stimulus.

That's truly, unbelievable.

172 posted on 04/09/2011 9:04:57 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Bronzy

Warning about Gonorrhea Lectim

The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of this old disease. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim. It’s pronounced “Gonna re-elect ‘em,” and it is terribly painful.


173 posted on 04/09/2011 9:30:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: FreeReign

“More to follow, as the rats folded much, much more than the republicans did.”

And Post 168.


174 posted on 04/09/2011 9:49:37 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: screaminsunshine
Gee. My calculator does not work in Trillions and Quadrillions. You must be a genius.

Wow amazing. First you make a stupid comment about being able to add and subtact then follow it up with the comment above.

Maybe you can't make your calculator work with trillions and quadrillions, but I dare say that I, and a lot of others here, could by understanding how to use scientific notations or just simple powers of 10.

By the way that is taught in high school/middle school mathematics.

Apparently you are not aware of the first rule of holes,

When in one quit digging

Have a great day and do yourself a favor and quit posting me, especially about basic math and calculators both of which seem to give your problems.

175 posted on 04/09/2011 10:20:17 AM PDT by billva
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To: ratsreek
This is like watching wrestling, as the audience cheers on their masked heroes, as they take turns performing rehearsed acrobats for the audience of ignorant believers.

Grow up

It's ironic, that is the same exactly thing the phony Bush groupies used to tell everyone.

176 posted on 04/09/2011 10:25:28 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bigtigermike

177 posted on 04/09/2011 10:27:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If they won't protect life and liberty, what else matters?)
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To: Hulka
The “I want everything or I will take my ball (vote) and stay home” approach guarantees a win for the opposition—every time.

The 2010 budget was 3.5 trillion with a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit. The 2011 budget, which became Boehner's budget because the Democrats never passed one, will now be 3.6 trillion with a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit. Your claim that my approach is the I-want-everything approach, is baseless.

178 posted on 04/09/2011 10:55:42 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Arizona Carolyn
You do realize Boehner got two huge riders in this deal that totally cut the Democrats off at the knees? 1) The Senate now HAS to vote on the Healthcare Bill being cut

The Senate now HAS to VOTE on cutting funding for Planned Parenthood.

2 ..and they pass the cuts.

Then obama VETOES IT.

we LOSE AGAIN!!

179 posted on 04/09/2011 10:58:32 AM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
also a vote to defund Planned Parenthood is in this bill.

Then obama vetoes it.

Then what?

Planned parenthood keeps getting the MONEY and we look like fools,as usual.

180 posted on 04/09/2011 11:02:21 AM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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