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To: WOSG; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...
RE :”Boehner did a pretty good job overall getting what he got at the end, but he was dealing with snakes and liars and a media ll set to pump up the Dems and blame the GOP, so he had to get the best deal he could and save his powder for the bigger fights. GOP’s early mistake was coming in with $61 b from the get-go instead of the $100 b they needed to do (and promised), they needed a higher opening bid and(2) they needed to get the Senate on the record.

You sound reasonable.

Earlier this evening I was thinking that I would offer to give up the riders for the whole original $60B, not what Boehner got. But you could see that many house conservatives wanted to finally get this funding out of the way to move on to other battles. Funding the government, especially the military with endless short term continuing resolutions is extremely wasteful.

If Boehner ran into a suicide shutdown battle without knowing how to win like load-mouth Newt did, he would have been crushed and had to have caved like Newt did and give up everything. Many here were beating the drum for shutdown but never offered a real scenario of winning; just like some in 2005. At least Boehner doesnt boast and make idiotic statements that can be used to beat up Republicans like Newt did.

So I dont think much different than yesterday or last year. More battles ahead. Boehner is no hero type, he pushed TARP in 2008 and they shouldnt have kept him on in 2009. So I dont expect much.

116 posted on 04/08/2011 10:20:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

“Earlier this evening I was thinking that I would offer to give up the riders for the whole original $60B, not what Boehner got.”

That’s what I would have aimed for as well, especially as the Dems were claiming the numbers were agreed. I have no idea why they allowed the cut levels to get that low, but from the President’s POV, it’s off $70b from his proposal, so they felt they moved that far, and the GOP moved much less (only $20b).

I do know that if Reid had done a Senate bill, the negotiations would have been much easier, simpler, and more to GOPs benefit. The whole “White House negotiation” setup was a scenario to squeeze Boehner to cave, and IMHO he held up pretty well under it. It was a compromise but not a cave.


118 posted on 04/08/2011 10:27:47 PM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: sickoflibs; WOSG; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup

” Boehner is no hero type, he pushed TARP in 2008 and they shouldnt have kept him on in 2009. So I dont expect much. “

Good....you won’t get much.


128 posted on 04/09/2011 2:02:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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