Posted on 04/08/2011 4:15:07 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
The lamstream media is afraid that if this turns out against Obama it will be the story of the century and they failed to do their jobs and let this one pass right under their nose.
The normal “Birth Certificate” has uniquely identifying information along with eyewitness’s (doctor, nurse, orderly) and the specific location so that it is now verifiable and traceable.
“Otherwise, all children born of foreign diplomats here would be NBCs. “
That is NOT true. Diplomats are not under the jurisdiction of the United States as required by law.
14th Amendment: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
United States Code (Meaning US Law), Title 8 Section 1401: The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (a)a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
There could also be some simple reason/error he could not produce it. Possibly one we have not thought of. That is also a possibility.
Trump is much more sophisticated than the liberals in the media. He has researched it and knows much more on the subject than they do. They cant even comprehend him because he is over their heads.
In other words, would the fact that he has a certificate of live birth suggest that he is more likely to be a non-citizen in and of itself ?
I cannot speculate on that. I would think every time a child is born in the US in a hospital a birth certificate can be issued.
They’re like little kids refusing to accept there ain’t no Santa. They want to stay with the fantasy.
http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/BirthCerts/Archive/Birth_Certificate.htm
Last night I went over the Nordyke twin’s HI long form box by box to see what info is on there. There is nothing about religion.
The great thing about this is that the viewers voted on what they wanted discussed . Then when they started giving their arrogant responses i muted.
If you have proof that Obama was not born in the USA, then bring your case.
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Well, that’s so cool. Now prove he was EVER a US citizen or that his real name is actually Barrack Hussein Obama.
Buddy, the first statement, mine, is a true statement. It is an inarguable fact.
It is now up to you to prove that he was never a US citizen.
And you haven't.
Offer proof to that effect...and you'll be taken seriously.
Hussein lost his US citizenship when mother remarried and he went to Indonesia. He attended school in Indonesia at a time when only citizens were allowed to attend school there.
Indonesia did not provide for dual citizenship so Hussein would have had to go through IMMIGRATION upon return to the US thus considered a NATURALIZED citizen. He would no longer be considered natural born.
Yeah Yeah yeah...however, Obama has been using an alias and wrote books promoting his Kenyan heritage. So at minimum he is guilty of of defrauding purchasers of his books and donors providing campaign contributions to him.
I would say he is in DEEP DOO DOO!
The lamstream media is afraid that if this turns out against Obama it will be the story of the century and they failed to do their jobs and let this one pass right under their nose.
Sorry, the tipping point has been reached thanks to Trump. No putting the genie back in the bottle etc. It’s out there, and more revelations to go mainstream shortly as well. (Rezko land deal, fraudulent use of multiple SSNs, etc).
There is not a problem with having proof, the problem is having a court allow the case to proceed and accept the evidence.
So far all the cases have been dropped based on the standing not the evidence introduced.
On a recorded broadcast obama admitted to Keyes( his opponent in 2004) that he was NOT a natural born citizen. He stated that it was not important since he was not running for President.
Having proof is not the problem,the problem is having someone with the balls to stand up to obama and the media.
The courts are reluctant to accept the case because there is absolutely no established precedent -- no clarity over what "natural-born citizen" really means in the Constitution.
You and others have an opinion. Yet others have a different opinion. Many have no idea whatsoever. As of now, all opinions are equally valid. Including Vattel's.
Under the current circumstances, no court is going to touch it.
If you want it resolved -- which, I grant, would be a good idea -- the Congress needs to pass a statute clarifying the what they believe to be the framer's intent. Then, that might be tested in court -- finally delivering a definitive answer.
The NBC argument is a red-herring...a distraction.
The case were denied on standing not merits of the evidence. Only Congress can remove obama, not the court system.
Point being, the court won't hear them because they don't want to. They'll all find a reason -- and "standing" is convenient.
What you are calling "evidence", if it applies to the NBC theory, isn't evidence at all. It's an opinion of what you (and Vattel, et al) think the constitution means.
There are other opinions that are equally valid.
Only Congress can remove obama, not the court system.
And Congress won't do it, either.
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