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(Wisconsin)High-profile lawyers retained for possible Supreme Court recount
The Capital Times (Wisconsin) ^ | April 7, 2011 11:00 pm | JESSICA VANEGEREN AND STEVEN ELBOW

Posted on 04/08/2011 4:55:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

Kloppenburg's campaign is working with Marc Elias, an attorney with Perkins Coie, a Washington D.C.-based firm with an office in downtown Madison. Elias is the same attorney who represented Democratic challenger Al Franken in his eight-month epic recount battle with incumbent Republican Norm Coleman. Franken eventually prevailed, winning his U.S. Senate seat by 312 votes.

Prosser has hired Ben Ginsberg, a Washington-D.C. attorney who played a prominent role in the 2000 Bush-Gore presidential recount effort in Florida. He was also part of the team that represented Coleman in his recount effort. Prosser has also retained Madison attorney Jim Troupis, and Dan Kelly, who is based in Milwaukee.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: benginsberg; dankelly; jimtroupis; kloppenburg; marcelias; perkinscoie; prosser; wisconsinshowdown
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To: No Truce With Kings
The error that resulted in the Prosser undercount only affected the unofficial numbers reported to the press. Unofficial numbers have no validity.

Thanks for reiterating this important fact. No votes were manufactured; it was merely a reporting oversight. The Left, and even many conservatives, miss this point. Of course, this fact will be highlighted in the days to come, which will make the Leftists absolutely livid.

41 posted on 04/08/2011 6:33:16 AM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: randita
The shame is that if all those Waukesha Prosser votes were tallied the night of the election, Klop would most like have conceded and this would probably be a non-issue.

I disagree. If the Prosser votes were known about, the Dems would have gotten the votes to squeak by, by whatever means necessary. The Dems ALWAYS seem to win when it's a tight race, and under 1% is a tight race.

42 posted on 04/08/2011 6:33:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
The margin is too large to get away with a Franken.

This is an exercise in futility, IMO, that even the filthy Dems can't pull off.

43 posted on 04/08/2011 6:34:37 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: No Truce With Kings
Actually, yesterday I heard that they had done that already — that it was one of the pieces of legislation passed while the Democrat Senators were flee-bagging. Eliminated same-day registration and vouching, too.

Madison has lots of students on the voting rolls. Students graduate and move away, but the names stay on the rolls. Without photo ID requirements, Dem operatives can just get a printout of the names and addresses of the last two graduating classes, plus a list of people who have died but are still on the rolls, and have people go vote in their names late on election evening.

44 posted on 04/08/2011 6:37:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: randita

Klop would not have conceded. The union thugs wouldn’t let her.


45 posted on 04/08/2011 6:37:22 AM PDT by ratsreek
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The problem with lawyer jokes is that lawyers don’t think they are funny and the rest of us don’t think they are jokes.


46 posted on 04/08/2011 6:39:27 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: fwdude
Thankfully, Prosser is already in office. This can't be negated.

If it can get dragged out to when his term ends in August, then the Dem Secretary of State can declare the seat vacant, and the court will be split 4-4.

47 posted on 04/08/2011 6:39:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
"If the Prosser votes were known about, the Dems would have gotten the votes to squeak by, by whatever means necessary. The Dems ALWAYS seem to win when it's a tight race, and under 1% is a tight race."

This would have been a brilliant move by the Wisconsin Republicans if it were deliberate (which I doubt).

48 posted on 04/08/2011 6:40:11 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: sport

Maybe we just need to “volunteer”. :)


49 posted on 04/08/2011 6:42:47 AM PDT by ratsreek
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To: PapaBear3625

Perkins Coie is scum. Check out their website w a big ol “diversity” page going on about LGBT and minorities. This firm is not a law firm. It is a political action committee of lib/lawyers/liars/low lifes


50 posted on 04/08/2011 6:43:15 AM PDT by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: No Truce With Kings

i think along side the voter ID
There should be a Ink Well for all voters,(Dip here please)


51 posted on 04/08/2011 6:43:58 AM PDT by mdel747
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To: PapaBear3625
and the court will be split 4-4

My error. The WI court has 7 justices, so it would be 3-3. But the Chief Justice is a Dem.

52 posted on 04/08/2011 6:45:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: spodefly

Lawyers are the problem with this country... F them all...

On another note, isn’t Prosser up by 7K votes? Really? what do we need lawyers for other than to steal the election?


53 posted on 04/08/2011 6:48:55 AM PDT by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: PapaBear3625
If it can get dragged out to when his term ends in August, then the Dem Secretary of State can declare the seat vacant...

I was thinking about the near term. And I don't think something like this will be dragged out that long on a state level. Besides, most election issues are expedited in court because of the exigency of knowing the winner a.s.a.p. The Supreme Ct worked at break-neck speed for the FL 2000 recount issue, after all.

54 posted on 04/08/2011 6:49:17 AM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: PapaBear3625

So does Prosser remain on the bench as the Rats drag this out?


55 posted on 04/08/2011 6:55:24 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: randita
Even if they don't support what the unions or doing and voted for Prosser, their taxes pay WI public sector workers and part of their pay goes to the unions. This is what is so onerous about public sector unions. The taxpayers have no seat at the table.

Keep in mind that, if you are able to itemize, union dues and other job expenses are deductible to the extent that they exceed 2% of the adjusted gross income. So ALL UNIONS are being subsidized by taxpayers.

56 posted on 04/08/2011 6:58:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: PapaBear3625

[Meanwhile, the WI repubs need to put together a Voter ID bill, and get it passed no later than next week.]

I don’t undertand why they haven’t done this yet. Americans, in general, overwhelmingly support voter id laws. The only people who don’t are Rat activists who understand the power of their vote fraud machine and how it works.


57 posted on 04/08/2011 7:01:50 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: PapaBear3625

This is good news.

They are going to compound foolish with downright stupid. The more they dig, the more they’ll find vote fraud - dhimmicrat vote fraud.

It isn’t going to turn out as the way they want.


58 posted on 04/08/2011 7:09:35 AM PDT by rockrr ("Remember PATCO!")
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To: ratsreek
“If the votes were already manufactured but held back until and unless needed, we’re not talking about that many ballots salted throughout rat strongholds. Don’t forget about same-day provisional ballotting. I think that’s their ace in the hole.

Between the provisionals and “found” ballots, they only need about 25k votes in areas that went about 65% for Klopp to get there. 25k ballots is less than 2% of the total vote right now.

It’s doable with experienced attorneys and willing judges.”

You would need very willing judges to “find” ballots after the canvass. Up until the canvass it is pretty easy to “find” ballots. But having a ballot box show up after the canvass is to admit to malfeasance, because you are legally required to report all valid ballots at the canvass. (By valid I also mean challenged and provisional ballots.)

So to add “found” ballots after the canvass you need a local judge who is willing to ignore state law, an appeals court that is willing to do so — and have the Wisconsin Supreme Court ignore the law. And in this case a tie at the Supreme Court level upholds existing law, which states ignore the “found” ballots.

That means the clever lawyers are pretty much limited to playing with the provisional ballots. But the Democrats thought they had enough to yield enough to push the K-lady over the top with the normal range of error on a canvass (about a 1000 vote swing is maximum — and I think it swung about 400 prior to this report), so that means they have maybe 2000-3000 max stored. I'll bet they used part of that margin on Election Day to gain that 200 point lead, too.

I am not saying they cannot do it, just that this is several orders of magnitude greater than the usual difficulty involved in stealing an election.

59 posted on 04/08/2011 7:12:28 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: KansasGirl
So does Prosser remain on the bench as the Rats drag this out?

He remains on the bench until the end of his term in August. What happens after that if there's still court challenges, hasn't been nailed down yet.

60 posted on 04/08/2011 7:16:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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