Anyone with access to a transcript please post soonest.
Talking about something only helps when you're dealing with rational people. When the object of the discussion says "No, I don't wanna" everytime he's asked to do something, and his supports scream "RACIST!" everytime the subject is broached .... there's not much that can be discussed.
I suppose that you could get the law involved, if you could find someone who was completely impartial, and who couldn't be bought off, or intimidated. But that's a pretty tall order too, esp given the circumstances of 2008 when BO was largely (except by FR) viewed as the second coming.
Thanks for the ping, Nully.
It’s quite amusing to see some after-birthers doing the good ol’ 180 with no apologies to anyone for the long-espoused ridiculing of proofers or ghosters.
Not all of them are (were) trolls but boy, they sound so tough on 0h0m0llah now, thanks to Trump who voiced a fraction of what proofers have been saying for over three years.
Seeing the light beats living in the dark.
Angela rightfully so took Rush to the wood shed, like Donald did today on "Today," on Joe's Morning with Ed Rendell, Pat Buchanan and others!
Also Hannity was sent to the time-out corner on his today's radio-show!!
Rush was tap-dancing pathetically weak also and waded into the expected mode: "See, I told you so"!!!
RUSH: Angela in Arnold, Missouri, not far from St. Louis. Welcome to the EIB Network. Great to have you here.
CALLER: Thank you. Rush, I am incensed, truly incensed that you are so worked up and in a dither because Donald Trump is actually having the nerve to go after the validity of Barack Obama's birthplace.
RUSH: Wait a minute.
CALLER: And he's just not going to leave the issue alone. You've been chuckling about it because he's having so much nerve to just not leave this issue alone. And the fact of the matter is that his citizenship has been a suspicious issue from the very beginning, and not one high Republican or you has ever really tried to nail him on this issue, and if it does turn out that he is not a true citizen, then I think all of you should hang your heads in shame because of all the destruction our country has had to suffer ever since he was elected, in spite of being the fraud that we know he probably really is.
RUSH: So you're mad at me?
CALLER: I am furious. I wanted you and anybody else to go after him on this issue before he was elected. It would have been the easiest way to have stopped him. It would have been a no-brainer. But nobody would. And so he was elected and everything was just hidden under the rug. And now look what we have had ever since.
RUSH: Just a moment. There were court cases. Judges threw it out. Judges looked at it. There were any number of efforts made to get to the bottom of this.
CALLER: Well, how is Donald Trump gonna get anywhere with it, then?
RUSH: Well, why aren't you mad at Trump for not getting into it earlier? Why are you mad at me for pointing out what Trump said? How come you're not mad at Trump for not being on this for two years? Trump's a late arrival here.
CALLER: Trump is not the one who has the show that's supposed to be exposing all the political --
RUSH: Oh.
CALLER: -- mess in this country. You are.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: You're the one who's supposed to be enlightening everybody, and you did not do as much as you could have done to enlighten us to how big a fraud Obama is, and, you know, if it does turn out that he's not a citizen, I think you should hang your head in shame, because our country has suffered so much --
RUSH: Now wait just a second, Angela. Throw this birth certificate business out, I gotta remind you there is no evidence whatsoever Obama was not born in Hawaii. There's something he doesn't want us to see about the birth certificate, but there's nothing to glom onto here other than his reticence in having the birth certificate seen. I am the only one who proclaimed the guy a fraud. I'm the one who did not go along with Obama. I'm the one who said I hope he failed. I'm the guy who took all the arrows for a whole Republican Party and everybody else for suggesting this guy was a fraud and filled with deceit, that he's not who he said he was on the basis of policy and the things that he had planned for this country.
CALLER: But the fact that there was no evidence was the very reason why you should have gone forward. I have evidence that I'm a citizen. Why didn't he have to produce the evidence? Nobody made him do it. Not even you, and you and everyone else should have made him provide the evidence.
RUSH: Okay.
CALLER: He shouldn't have been able to get away with that.
RUSH: So what do you want me to do now? You're mad at me for playing Trump. You're upset with me for --
CALLER: No.
RUSH: -- airing sound bites of Trump?
CALLER: I'm upset because now Donald Trump has to come in and do the job that you and the high-ranking Republicans in office should have been doing before the election.
RUSH: Well, look, he did produce a copy of the short form birth certificate which the government of Hawaii has vouched for as completely authentic. He did produce evidence which a state in this country said was good enough for them.
CALLER: Well, then why is there anything Donald Trump can be going after, why are we even talking about it? There must be an issue.
RUSH: You know, if I were afraid of this, as you are alleging, I wouldn't even be playing Trump sound bites, or if I were, I'd be making fun of Trump and telling him to shut up and go away, but I'm not.
CALLER: Well, he's apparently willing to take the risk of -- (crosstalk)
RUSH: Let me tell you something.
CALLER: -- in case it turns out that he's wrong.
RUSH: Okay, if you want to focus, Angela, on what should have happened before the election, we can do that, and I can focus on the stupidity of half the country that voted for the guy, and I can talk about all the stupid things the media said and all the tricks that were played to convince people that he's not who he was. But today it's 2011 and those days are over and we are living in the midst of this guy destroying the economy and going back and talking about a birth certificate right now is not the most effective way of stopping this guy. I would love nothing more than for this guy to be proven a fraud. I would love nothing more than for all of this to have been a giant trick. I would love nothing more than for him to get nabbed at this, but there isn't any evidence of it yet. I would love nothing more to see what happens when it's proven, if it could be, that he's not a citizen. What happens with legislation when everything he's done is unqualified, everything he's done is illegal. Everything he's done has gotta be wiped clean. Can you imagine that battle? I would love to see that.
You've got me pegged wrong here. But I deal with what is. I don't deal with what-ifs. "If" is for children. And we've got certain things that are the reality of the day that have to be dealt with, pure and simple, and that's where I am on this. No more and no less. There's no magic wand that can get Obama unelected. You can hope and you can dream but you are locked in a fantasy if that's what you're waiting for. That isn't gonna happen. The focus needs to be on making sure he's not reelected. But there is no way to unelect the guy. It isn't going to happen. Having said that, oh, yeah, I'm like all of you, I would love for this guy to be a total fraud when it comes to the birth certificates. He's a fraud on practically everything else. If he's born somewhere else, I would love for conclusive proof of that. That would be fun. Just to watch the Democrats and the media. That would be worth the price of admission and whatever they charge for it. But until such things happen, if, when, whatever, there's a reality that has to be dealt with day in and day out.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: I think you'd have a tough time finding anybody who has spent more time, who's talked more about Obama's lack of records and his lack of school transcripts. The fact that he's not written anything as president of law review at Harvard, that's just unbelievable. A law review head honcho who doesn't write, who hasn't been published? His medical records? Every other normal document? Obama is clearly a very secretive person. He likes to make up stories about his life, as we just mentioned again today. He says he went out and pumped gas. His own! He didn't do it for a living, but he says it in such a way as to make it look like he had a job pumping gas. He never did. But you gotta understand, too:
The original claim that Obama was not legally qualified to be president was started by Democrat operatives, which is one of the things that made me suspicious about it. The claim got started by a guy named Larry Johnson, who's been a spokesman for the Democrat Party. He's the same lunatic who wrote a New York Times op-ed claiming we had no reason to worry about Islamic terrorists. This is about a month before 9/11. The guy who started the Obama birth certificate rumor, Larry Johnson, is the same guy who claimed he had tapes of Michelle Obama calling people "whitey." Now, this has not deterred me. The last time I got in trouble on this subject was (chuckles) I had a guy on the phone talking about Obama and "the messiah" and all this stuff.
I said, "Well, wait a minute. Don't be too quick to condemn Obama as a messiah because he's got a lot in common with God. God doesn't have a birth certificate, either." Well, I caught hell on the leftist blogs for that, if you will recall. You remember that? Yeah, "God doesn't have a birth certificate, either." So where is all this coming from that I have been a lapdog on all this? I have studied the issue. "Dear Rush..." I got an e-mail here during the break. "Dear Rush: What's it like? I can't imagine what it's like getting nagged from a woman on the radio that I wasn't married to. I'm very impressed at your composure. Gregory Kaplowitz." (laughing) Patience is my middle name -- and Kindness. I'm probably the politest host in the history of talk radio. I take great pride in that.