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To: sukhoi-30mki
And if you think supplying nuclear technology to the Pakis and Koreans is the same as supplying F-15s to Saudi Arabia, I don’t know what to tell you.

Well, what do you mean by supplying nuclear technology?

I do believe China helping Pakistan with jet fighters is not different than the US selling F-15s to Saudi Arabia. And by the way, Pakistan is a democracy and Saudi Arabia is not. And before you tell me about Pakistan harboring Islamist terrorists, well.... you heard of where Osama Bin Ladin is originally from? And he ain't the only one in that country with his thinking. And the US sells F-15s to them.

Err, China’s sins continue on the international stage. It’s just not as blatant.

hmmmmmm......China invaded Vietnam in 1979, yet today is negotiating high speed rail projects. Had border wars with Russia in the late 60's but have settled them recently (angering many Chinese citzens and accusing the government of giving away Chinese soveriegnty) and now have gas and oil pipelines in the works. So, not sure what you mean by "continue on....." and yet "just not as blatant". And China's past conflicts were not so one sided. Border wars with Russia in the lates 60s?, well seems to me there was some wranglings between Russia (USSR) and the US during that time as well. Maybe not armed conflict, but tensions. Ever hear about the Cuban Missle crisis (early 60's). Shall we put the blame squarely on the US simply because it happened?

And India and Pakistan still shoot at each other ocassionally, so what does that say about India? China, had her contribution in the conflict with India back in the early 60's, but I don't believe India was a totally unprovoked angel sitting and minding her own business and big bad China comes along and launches a border war with her. India, afterall, is still a nation that practices the cast system and is unlikely to go away soon.

So while tensions continue to exist between India and China, the two countries, driven mainly by China, are looking for ways to expand trade. And lets not forget those Central Asian countries. Once again, China is negotiating with those countries to allow a pathway to build oil pipelines from the Middle East, through Central Asia and onto China. Can get that done if you're shooting at one another.

84 posted on 04/08/2011 10:41:31 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: ponder life

Anyone with half a brain will tell you that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme, cruise and ballistic missile efforts wouldn’t have been possible without Chinese help. Pakistan being a democracy-well most of those deals took place during the Zia ul Haq and Musharraf eras.

If India has the caste system, it at least has a government and institutions to attempt equality for all. Unlike a certain nation which has resettled Han Chinese all over Tibet and destroyed its culture. About India being an angel, well everyone knows that its the Chicom government which still supports militant groups in the Northeast of the country. Since you dont want to believe any of that, you can go and crawl back into your comfy little world of Chinese pride.


86 posted on 04/08/2011 10:47:46 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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