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To: WOSG

The LP’s biggest lie is about how they would do so much more if they were in power.”

This has nothing to do with the question. What did they say about Ryan’s plan that is untrue? I suspect what they said about the Ryan plan is all true, but would be happy to be wrong.

On a separate note, would you object if someone abolished Medicaid, SS, and Medicare? Also, do you believe that they are Constitutional? Or are you just saying that it is unlikely that it could be done?


27 posted on 04/05/2011 10:02:18 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Actually there is nothing in the statement that IS true, it’s the same lame talking points that the leftists use.

Start with ...

“Republicans want to spend $40 trillion over ten years.”

Spending is already AT $4 trillion, so the Republican plan, given inflation and population growth, will reduce total spending versus current spending. They make it sound as if the Republicans are big-spenders for proposing a plan that reduces Govt outlays by trillions less than the Democrat plan. Their failure to add that context is typical bogus talking-point.

Ryan plan not only is so reduced from the Democrat plans the Dems are spitting nails about old people out on the street, it doesnt raise taxes like the deficit commission or Dem plans, so the Dems are talking about how its ‘not balanced’.

“That averages a staggering $4 trillion per year. As recently as 2000, federal spending was only about $1.8 trillion.” .. a bogus stat that merely reflects that we have grown spending BEFORE the Ryan plan. Who cares about 10 years ago, what is it NOW? $4 trillion a year!

WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT. Obama and the Democrats have massively increased spending, and plan to keep the spending increasing more. The Ryan plan shaves about $6-7 trillion off the spending plan that Obama has. You cannot turn a big ship around on a dime, and LP talking points that pretend you can are dishonest and misleading.

“Or are you just saying that it is unlikely that it could be done?”

Unlikely?!? You even have to ask? They could blow unicorns out their a** before they could get that done.

And no, I dont think having the Fed Govt renege on commitments made to seniors is a good idea. People who paid into SocSec should get their retirement checks, and the LP pretending that they could or should cut them off is insane. Which is why the Rep Ryan plan does the best thing that can be done: leaves current seniors alone, but moves to a better system for the next generation.

Maybe if the LP stopped criticizing good plans and started explaining things in positive way, it would help convince more wrt small govt. ... but then Wes Benedict and crew are more about tearing down the GOP than advancing liberty. Beware their hidden agenda.

You know I can bat .800 and score 200 points in an NBA finals game, I just never got the chance to play ... but I can criticize even the winners as weaklings for not playing up to my game. Losertarians are the same kind - legends-in-their-own-minds who have zero capability to enact their promises.


61 posted on 04/06/2011 7:28:05 AM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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