That total B.S. What many of us are doing is looking objectively at the reality of governments at all levels. It is truly frightening what his happening. I am quite involved in Tea Party activities and various PACs.
Believe me, most Freepers will NEVER give up. What we see year after year is weak leaders saying they will act, but fail us. The Tea Party is a very positive development.
Those who cherish Liberty never give up; it's not in our DNA. It is just that with Ryan's proposal, many are being falsely assured that "finally we can turn the beast around." Sorry, no sale for this proposal.
If that's not a call to "give up", I don't know what is.