[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Hot discussion...with much venting..... with the latest dealings on this thread:

Boehner to introduce one-week stopgap to stave off shutdown (Pelosi had more of a pair)

[Marine_Uncle]

It's a win/win for the kenyan. If the repubs cave in and go along with a small cut then he, pelosi and reid win.
If the government goes into partial shutdown, he still wins, because the commies can blame the repubs. If any of those scenarios take place the kenyan and his masters have the satisfaction they have quickly put us on a road to total ruin from a financial and super power view.
America has lost badly any way one looks at it.