Posted on 04/04/2011 8:57:53 AM PDT by reaganaut1
... [P]ervasive negative attitudes toward Islam go far deeper into the American psyche even than these manifestations suggest, for contempt toward the religion of Mohammed is a foundational pillar of Western civilization. That it is unacknowledged only makes it more pernicious.
European Christian imagination jelled as European, as Christian, and as imagination around the mythic 732 triumph of Charles Martel over infidel Muslim forces in a battle near Poitiers, France. That may seem like an eternity ago and a world away, but still-powerful attitudes that show up in suspicions of widespread Muslim radicalization were generated then. In epoch-shaping chansons de geste celebrating Charles Martel, Islam was portrayed as nothing less than the anti-Christ. So resonant was its defeat, that Charles Martel was empowered as the effective founder of cohesive European social structures, with his lineage (through his grandson Charlemagne) extending even to present-day royalty.
Edward Gibbon famously shuddered at the thought that, but for Charles Martel, the Koran would be taught to the circumcised at Oxford instead of the New Testament. (It seems not to have occurred to Gibbon that, had the Poitiers battle gone the other way, Oxford, which dates to 1167, might have been founded years earlier by, say, disciples of the great Muslim scholar Avicenna, who died in 1037.) From early on, Western civilization understood itself positively against the negative foil of Islam, a polarity that was institutionalized during the decisive centuries of the Crusades. That Christendom failed to liberate the Holy Land from infidel control only made permanent the fear and hatred of Islam.
Meanwhile, as is always true of bigotry, Europeans knew very little about actual Muslims.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
I'll let others jump in as I must run some errands, but I shall return.
What is obvious is that either this loon is naive beyond description--and knows 0 about the "Religion of (Rest In) Pieces, the psychotic, murdering, pedarast, "Profit," (Moo-Ham-Ud)--or is a "bought and paid for" shill for the Moose-limb Bruder-Hood, all things Islamist and a dangerous, pro Jihadist, Taqiyya-practicing tool!
Where do they find these people?
Well, here's a couple of points:
Much of the muslims' so called scientific enlightenment was the remnant Byzantine Empire-- loot from slaughter.
The roots of America's animosity goes back to the Barbary Pirates.
I think the Europeans on the Iberian peninsula probably knew quite a bit about 'actual' muslims -- what with being invaded, conquered and oppressed by them...
One man’s ‘bigotry’ is another man’s preservation.
“Meanwhile, as is always true of bigotry, Europeans knew very little about actual Muslims.”
Yeah, but what they know, they don’t like.
An American minister burns the Koran and Muslims murder people in retribution.
In Muslim Nations Christians and Jews are persecuted, their Churches burned and they have been slaughtered. Where is the outrage? Muslims are establishing a different standard. We have to watch what we say or there will be violence. Persecution carnage and murder are staples of their religion.
Yes there are a few quiet but brave voices in America, but there are atrocities committed every day. Can we hear them?
Sometimes, what someone calls "bigotry" is simply a set of generalizations based on an overwhelming preponderance of factual evidence. In this case, the generalizations can be summarized in one, over-arching concept: Islam.
The roots of my mohammedan contempt is based in their history from the birth of the brigand pedo-bear “profit” until the last suicide bombing.
As a previous signature line read. “Islam, bringing you only the best of the 6th century for 1400 years.”
The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims
Read Lee Harris' outstanding work to get a sense of why and how the West's days may be numbered. We are our own worst enemy unless we face up to the hard choices necessary to remain free and prosperous.
The Suicide of Reason: Radical Islam's Threat to the West
If anyone is still having trouble wrapping their minds around the fact that Western civilization does in fact have mortal and existential enemies, take a quick turn through Lee Harris' Civilization and Its Enemies
Islam is not so much a religion as it is a supremacist, totalitarian political ideology (no separation of church and state here, eh?), a destructive meme impervious to moderation or change, and with a narrowly circumscribed set of rituals that define every aspect of its followers lives. As for 'tolerance', here's a quote from the Muslim Brotherhood and their mission in the U.S, calling for...
"...a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Gods religion is made victorious over all other religions."
Speaking to the 'religion of peace," assertion that we hear from Muslims and ignorant (yes, ignorant) Westerners, when Muslims assert that Islam is a religion of peace they are not engaging in al taqqiya, they are actually making an assertion in good faith.
The problem lies in the fact that Islam has, from the Western point of view, a defective concept of peace. In semitic languages like Arabic, the consonants are the root of the word: islam = submission, and salam = peace have the same root, slm.
The only concept of peace in Islamic jurisprudence is the peace between the conqueror and the conquered, between master and slave. There is no concept of a negotiated peace between nations in Islamic law (and note that law is the defining property of Islamtheir clerics are jurists, schools of Quranic interpretation are called fiqh, a legalistic term)Muslims may negotiate a hudna or armistice of limited duration with non-Muslim, but not a definitive enduring peace.
In that regard, Islam was, is and will be a serial murderer of entire cultures and peoples. This is what Islam has done throughout its entire 1400 year history. This is what it has done whenever it has finally gotten the upper hand in whatever culture is has opposed. This is what has been inextricably interwoven into the 'DNA' of its operating system. Those whom Islam does not destroy, it enslaves, diminishes and impoverishes. Islam strives for the conversion, enslavement or death of all who do not conform to its sadistic and cruel vision of Mankind. Islam cannot be reformed in the light of our Western values of humanity and freedom. Were that so, it would no longer be Islam. For its psychopathic and cruel misogyny alone, Islam is an abomination and worthy only of extinction.
Finally, here's a wakeup call that will chill you to the core. And if anyone from the West is still defending Islam after this, then they deserve what Islam has in store for them: dhimmitude, slavery and death.
Liberals aren’t stupid. Many of them are very smart, their track record proves it.
None of them, however, are wise.
I would agree there are a lot of intelligent liberals. But every single one of them is a lunatic and delusional.
http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2842&Itemid=91
Say they don’t know very much well here is an introduction of what a Muslim is..Mohammads and Islams anti-Black racism.
I couldn't get past the first sentence.
When Christians are being sentenced to death for converting Christianity, when raped 14 year olds are beaten to death, when 7 year olds have their clitorises hacked off, when when are imprisoned behind walls and clothed in black tents....... then I conclude this is a cruel, barbaric, uncivilized, and culturally despicable and depraved economic, political, and religious belief system. And....I refuse to call it a “religion”.
True self-loathing is carrying a guilt trip from the Early Middle Ages.
Islam took Christian nations by conquest, Egypt, Palestine, Syria, North Africa, Spain, most of Asia Minor and southern France. They have been doing so since their government was founded by Mohamed. Their countries are founded on violence and conquest. Their “Holy Book” tells them to do so.
If you assert the negative you have just proved the positive.
If you deny the existence of bigotry you are yourself a bigot.
Acknowledging that this ancient current runs silent and deep below the ocean of our history is the start of getting free of it.
But like all intellectual tyranny, the way to salvation is available, just repent of your bigotry, and accept the new catechism unquestioningly.
Invective is fun and we do it here all the time, but it isn’t taken seriously. And I don’t take this article seriously, so decided not to read it as soon as I see the flag: “Bigotry.”
He’s changing the topic, using a red herring to distract people from the real issue: the really bad things muslims do every day. It’s an informal, genetic fallacy>ad hominem: `poisoning the well.” Instead of arguing the issue, he wants you tripping over yourself apologizing or being outraged.
It’s also guilt by association and the good ol `Hitler card.’
I don’t remember the author’s name but he insulted anyone outraged by 9-11—and that’s just about every American alive at the time—and everything that has happened since. He can behave and argue the matter rationally or he can fail to pound sand in a rat-hole. I expect as usual with these types he will choose the latter.
Many of the comments at the Globe website are excellent. Very few agree with him.
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