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Why Conservatives Should Oppose Efforts To Defund Planned Parenthood (Full Page WSJ ad)
Wall Street Journal | 4/4/11 | Richard M. Scaife

Posted on 04/04/2011 7:11:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: SoFloFreeper

Chastity is another way for a woman to be “mistress of her own body”. Oddly enough, I can’t remember Margaret Sanger ever saying anything good about that method of female autonomy. /s


101 posted on 04/04/2011 12:41:00 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

Excellent post.


102 posted on 04/04/2011 12:42:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Thank you.


103 posted on 04/04/2011 12:42:51 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: joe fonebone; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
OK........deep breath...YES, I believe an unborn child is a person...

Then why do you believe that a state should be allowed to enact laws saying that a person can be killed arbitrarily? Where do you find this in the Constitution?

I also believe it is a waste of time and money fighting this on the national scale, as it has been since roe vs wade..this is why the feds should be out of it entirely..

Newsflash for you it already is a federal issue, the ONLY WAY anything is done to end abortion is if the Supreme Court rules or if a constitutional amendment declares the unborn to be people. You can say all day long that it should be a state issue, but first you must get the federal government to agree.

are you saying it is better to have it legal in all states than illegal in some?

I'm saying the entire issue is red herring used by pro-aborts to appear pro-life.

104 posted on 04/04/2011 12:43:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: SoCal SoCon

“this so-called nonprofit organization”.
Is like most nonprofits, somewhere some one is making lots and using the tax laws to their advantage, some times for good, others like this for the devils work.


105 posted on 04/04/2011 12:45:37 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: wagglebee
"I'm saying the entire issue is red herring used by pro-aborts to appear pro-life. "
and yet once again you resort to calling me pro abortion....go to hell, and take your "superior morality" with you
106 posted on 04/04/2011 12:46:19 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: smoothsailing

Yep, I remember. There was a wealth of things to criticize him about too, it would have been a target rich environment for her.


107 posted on 04/04/2011 12:47:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: joe fonebone; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
and yet once again you resort to calling me pro abortion....go to hell, and take your "superior morality" with you

I really don't care if you call yourself pro-abort or pro-choice, the result is the same.

All you are saying is something to the effect of, "I am personally opposed to abortion, but do not think I have the right to impose my values on states."

108 posted on 04/04/2011 12:55:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: joe fonebone
OK........deep breath...YES, I believe an unborn child is a person.

Those who will admit to this obvious fact, and then allow the states to kill the persons in question anyway, are, in fact, worse than Justice Harry Blackmun, the author of the majority opinion in Roe v. Wade.

After all, even he admitted that if the fetus is a person, they are "OF COURSE" protected specifically by the Constitution.

"The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a 'person' within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment."

-- Justice Harry A. Blackmun, Roe vs. Wade, 1973

He dehumanized them, then said go ahead and kill them.

Y'all don't even bother with the fig leaf.

109 posted on 04/04/2011 12:57:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you're not a personhood pro-lifer, your conservatism is fatally flawed.)
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To: wagglebee

NO.......what you are saying is if abortion cannot be overturn on the federal level, then it should not be overturned at all...it is YOU, and the people who think like you, that will take no victory, or go down no road other than the one you feel is correct...that is why this will never be overturned..you are like the jessie jacksons of the world, and probably have a stake in keeping things just the way they are.....it is your morally superior way of thinking that keeps the abortion mills in business, at least I offer a way to shut some of them down, yet you refuse to see this.......I am through with you, and anyone like you


110 posted on 04/04/2011 1:10:14 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone; wagglebee
and yet once again you resort to calling me pro abortion....go to hell, and take your "superior morality" with you

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You're not making a lot of sense here. How does your "battle plan" result in all states banning abortion? Imho, all it does is attempt to ban abortion in some states, which is essentially meaningless. It's accepting defeat.

111 posted on 04/04/2011 1:13:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: joe fonebone

You’re not making any sense here at all.


112 posted on 04/04/2011 1:14:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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what you are saying is if abortion cannot be overturn on the federal level, then it should not be overturned at all.

No, what I am saying is that the ONLY WAY abortion can be overturned is at the federal level. Either SCOTUS has to rule or there has to be a constitutional amendment.

There are "trigger laws" already on the books in some states, they are invalid because of Roe v. Wade.

YOU, and the people who think like you, that will take no victory, or go down no road other than the one you feel is correct.

Correct, I do not consider allowing states to legalize murder a victory.

that is why this will never be overturned..you are like the jessie jacksons of the world, and probably have a stake in keeping things just the way they are..

Why don't you put down the bong, the effects have been escalating throughout the day.

it is your morally superior way of thinking that keeps the abortion mills in business, at least I offer a way to shut some of them down, yet you refuse to see this.

You haven't offered ANYTHING other then a method for libertarians to say, "See? We tried." All the while a baby is murdered every 24 seconds.

113 posted on 04/04/2011 1:17:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: joe fonebone

You stated that you believe states should have the right to allow or disallow abortion. That is a pro-abortion stance. At least own up to what you’re advocating, even if you don’t believe in God, The Ten Commandments, or any moral compass whatsoever. Be honest, just for the hell of it.


114 posted on 04/04/2011 1:18:58 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: joe fonebone
Other than the supreme right, the right to life, which other unalienable rights do you think states can alienate if they want to?

By the way, words mean things, and the word "unalienable" is no exception:

unalienable:
adj.

incapable of being repudiated or transferred to another; "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"

115 posted on 04/04/2011 1:21:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you're not a personhood pro-lifer, your conservatism is fatally flawed.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nowhere to turn for birth control? Condoms are on sale everywhere, fercryinoutloud.

What a pack of lies in this article.


116 posted on 04/04/2011 1:58:23 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ("We need to be in it to win it, and if there's doubt we need to get out". -- Palin on Libya.)
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117 posted on 04/04/2011 2:44:33 PM PDT by Lesforlife (Fighting to end abortion in my lifetime!)
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To: wagglebee

Planned Parenthood sets up their abortion mills in black and hispanic neighborhoods. Margaret Sanger would be so damn proud.


118 posted on 04/04/2011 6:12:26 PM PDT by floriduh voter (People who don't pray: start.. People who pray: pray more.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Planned Parenthood has no right to Taxpayer money.

Margaret Sanger's character was impugned during her lifetime and deservedly so. Today, in our morally deplete society she's hailed a hero.

A central part of what planned parenthood does is all about abortion. The rest of their "services" are just excuses and cover for their continued existence.

Richard Scaiffe is NO conservative. I'm actually relieved. I'd thought a REAL conservative had penned this piece, and was promoting the idea as some sort of tactic.

119 posted on 04/04/2011 7:31:58 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: joe fonebone

in the last 38 years only ONE state introduced legislation to make abortion illegal and that legislation failed. So I don’t know how you formed an opinion about how abortion can be repealed by the states rather than with a federal human life amendment. ONE state in 38 years.


120 posted on 04/04/2011 8:15:10 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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