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Radioactive water continues to leak
NHK ^ | April 3, 2011

Posted on 04/03/2011 1:29:25 PM PDT by SteveH

Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says there has been no change in the amount of radioactive water seeping from the Fukushima nuclear plant after a polymer absorbent was injected into a cracked pit.

Tokyo Electric Power Company found on Saturday that contaminated water was leaking into the ocean from the 20-centimeter crack in the concrete pit.

On Sunday, the utility firm used a polymer absorbent to try to stop the leak of radioactive water.

The government's nuclear agency said the injection of the chemical began shortly after 1:40 PM, but it cannot confirm if there has been a decline in the amount of contaminated water leaking into the ocean.

The agency added that sawdust and newspapers were also used, but the absorbent did not reach the pipe. Engineers are now trying to mix the substance with the water.

(Excerpt) Read more at 3.nhk.or.jp ...


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fukushima; nisa; tepco

1 posted on 04/03/2011 1:29:32 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: TigerLikesRooster

ping


2 posted on 04/03/2011 1:30:16 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

“Sawdust and newspapers”?

A bunch of hillbillies running these plants?

Even clumping kitty litter would probably have worked better. There might be a network of internal cracks in the concrete housing. The paper and sawdust will just fill up the cracks, blocking them to more effective plugging agents, without doing much to the water flow.


3 posted on 04/03/2011 1:36:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: SteveH

Don’t let Anne Coulter hear this. She’ll sell the water as a anti-cancer elexir.


4 posted on 04/03/2011 1:46:16 PM PDT by buzzer
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To: buzzer

Coulter, and a lot of others, initially believed this was going to be something on par with Three Mile Island. The amount of radiation loosed in that incident was well within the hormesis range. That is old news and now everybody knows that Fukushima is an active hazard.


5 posted on 04/03/2011 2:06:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: SteveH

6 posted on 04/03/2011 2:11:32 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The plugging attempts are just wags for the sheeple. They are intentionally leaking water from all the reactors that they are injecting. Something about the conservation of mass comes to mind. Their plan appears to be eventually pumping it into a gigantic barge. Leaks will continue until the barge gets there IMHO.

Conservation of Mass - Wikipedia

7 posted on 04/03/2011 2:50:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

alternatively (wag) they could just recycle the water (?).


8 posted on 04/03/2011 3:07:32 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: All

Japan Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA):

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/


9 posted on 04/03/2011 3:56:35 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
They fixed it twice, and it still leaks.

That leads me to believe that they're fixing in the wrong place.

10 posted on 04/03/2011 3:59:06 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: SteveH
Recycling the water will only increase its radioactivity over time. More radioactive elements in the water (particulate and dissolved). They have already found some incredibly radioactive puddles of water, so some recirculation has been occurring whether they planned it or not. My guess is they have been doing that.

Another guess is there must be more leaks. Do not see how that one leak could not cause a 2 x legal reading in seawater for Radioactive Iodine 30-40 km south of Fukushima (reading taken about 4 days ago).

11 posted on 04/03/2011 4:04:00 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

In the best of all possible worlds (I know...), perhaps there would be filters to filter out the radioactivity from the water.


12 posted on 04/03/2011 4:54:54 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

There are. They are pumping the water through the condensors, which exist for this purpose.


13 posted on 04/03/2011 5:01:35 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SteveH
There is another theory out there that could explain the very high seawater iodine readings. This source has been called biased, but the reports referenced are linked below. Might deserve its own discussion thread.

Newly Released TEPCO Data Provides Evidence of Periodic Chain Reaction at Fukushima Unit 1

WHAT CAUSED THE HIGH Cl-38 RADIOACTIVITY IN THE FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI REACTOR #1? PDF

WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE HIGH Cl-38 RADIOACTIVITY IN THE FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI REACTOR #1 pdf additional discussion

The Tepco table referenced in the video above is linked on the below page. Cannot open it myself as I get a Bad Encrypt Dictionary Error.

Press Release (Mar 31,2011) The detection of radioactive materials in the water on 1st basement of turbine building at the site of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station

14 posted on 04/03/2011 5:56:38 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
That pdf additional discussion link was found in a google search for the previous paper. Looks to be from an arms control wonk.
15 posted on 04/03/2011 5:58:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

He does not address the possibility of errors derived from the measurements themselves. Given the quality and quantity of information released to date from TEPCO and friends, and the lack of information on how the measurements themselves were taken and what analysis was performed, and the raw data, etc., it is might be difficult to build convincing theories one way or another. They are blazing a new trail so perhaps a lot of the equipment and personnel that they are using is just being broken in— for example, they may have some infant mortality problems in the hardware they are using to measure stuff. They should be taking multiple readings using multiple instruments but we do not necessarily see that, and we tend to assume that it happens as a matter of common sense prior to publicizing information (because that is the standard that we are accomodated to in the west), when that might in fact not be the case, and so the information publicized is deprecated accordingly without our knowledge. We have seen this type of problem in the recent past with TEPCO. Their measurements and analysis does not instill confidence with me at this time (ymmv).

For the Japanese font, just download Adobe FontPack1000_ja_JP.msi from the Adobe download website page. Adobe Reader X version 10.0.1 is apparently the latest.


16 posted on 04/03/2011 7:20:32 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
Thanks for the advice on download. And you made some good points. More news.

TEPCO trying to spot leak

Japan nuclear crisis: workers using newspaper and sawdust to block pipes

Last link from Drudge.

17 posted on 04/03/2011 9:18:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Oops. Correction.

Do not see how that one leak could not cause a 2 x legal reading in seawater for Radioactive Iodine 30-40 km south of Fukushima (reading taken about 4 days ago).

Should Read

Do not see how that one leak could cause a 2 x legal reading in seawater for Radioactive Iodine 30-40 km south of Fukushima (reading taken about 4 days ago).

18 posted on 04/03/2011 9:20:31 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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