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Koran-burning pastor says murders of UN staff aren’t his fault
Hotair ^ | 04/02/2011 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 04/03/2011 9:02:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Terry Jones burned a Koran, and an Afghan mob killed at least seven UN personnel. Connected? Surely, but that hardly makes Jones responsible for murder, he told ABC News in a Nightline interview last night:

CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO OF TERRY JONES' STATEMENT

Terry Jones, the Florida pastor who oversaw the burning of a Koran last month, said he did not feel responsible for the violent protest at a United Nations compound in Afghanistan today that left at least 11 dead. Instead, he said the violence proved his point.

“We wanted to raise awareness of this dangerous religion and dangerous element,” Jones said. “I think [today's attack] proves that there is a radical element of Islam.”

As for the 11 dead, which included seven U.N. staffers and guards, Jones told “Nightline” anchor Bill Weir, “We do not feel responsible, no.”

Interestingly, I had a conversation about this with a family member yesterday. While I agreed that Jones was a publicity hound looking for attention, that doesn’t make him responsible for murder. The only people responsible for murders are those who commit them, and those who specifically incite them to kill. Any other position eventually wipes out free speech, free religious practice, and freedom altogether. If we held others responsible for the acts of every nutcase whose violent reactions may or may not have connections to something they did or said, we would have no speech at all — a point we made repeatedly during the Left’s Loughner frenzy, which they conveniently forgot during the Madison protests.

James Joyner warns today about acknowledging the “murderer’s veto”:

Should Jones have burned the Koran? No. But not because doing so might incite some evil people halfway around the world to commit atrocities against innocents. Rather, he shouldn’t have done it was needlessly hurtful without adding any value to the debate. Indeed, aside from generating publicity for himself, he’s likely generated sympathy for Islam and disdain for churches of his ilk.

But Jones is not the slightest bit culpable for the actions of others. Yes, he was warned that violence might ensue. But we’re not responsible for the evil, illegal actions others might take in response to our freely expressing our thoughts. Even if they’re ill-informed, half baked, bigoted thoughts. If we allow the possible reaction of the most dogmatic, evil people who might hear the message to govern our expression, we don’t have freedom at all. It’s worse than a heckler’s veto; it’s a murderer’s veto.

The responsibility for these murders lie with the people who committed them, just as with the murders and violence following the publication of the editorial cartoons in Denmark a few years ago.


CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO OF TERRY JONES' STATEMENT


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; koranburning; pastor; radicalislam; terryjones; un
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To: RaceBannon

Just to be clear...I am a proud supporter of the Nuke Mecca wing of the Republican Party.

I still don’t see Pastor Jones as anything but a selfish publicity seeker.


101 posted on 04/03/2011 10:45:31 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: dfwgator
"It probably was triggered by the photos of the dead soldiers our soldiers took....ahh but that would make the “Golden One” in the White House look bad...so they blame it on the Pastor."

No, it was triggered by Karzai who made a statement denouncing the act.

102 posted on 04/03/2011 10:47:19 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: MestaMachine
Bzzzzt! I never said jones was fighting islam. What I REALLY wonder is why YOU are defending it. Are you a muslim?

You are the one who decided my criticism of Pastor Jones was equivalent to defending Islam...I never have and never will.

103 posted on 04/03/2011 10:48:17 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: SeekAndFind
I imagine that if I said that I burned a Koran, some Muzzie somewhere would get offended.

I might then be responsible for them being offended but I would not be responsible for their actions as a result.

Is posting a picture of a burning Koran the same as burning one?

I don't think so.

If you are going to burn a Koran, is it more offensive to smear it with pork fat first? Does it really matter? It will burn better but it seems like a waste of pork fat.

If you burn a Koran and don't tell any Muzzies, how many UN workers will they kill anyway?

Inquiring minds want to know?

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104 posted on 04/03/2011 10:51:25 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: dfwgator
"It probably was triggered by the photos of the dead soldiers our soldiers took....ahh but that would make the “Golden One” in the White House look bad...so they blame it on the Pastor."

No, it was triggered by Karzai who made a statement denouncing the act.

105 posted on 04/03/2011 10:51:38 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: meyer
There are no consequences to his actions. He burned a useless book. Presumably his own copy of the book. Some mindless idiots in the middle east decided that they needed to murder innocent people because of what he did. It isn't HIS actions that killed people, it's THEIR actions.

You not acknowledging cause and effect doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Jones knew what would happen...he didn't care.

106 posted on 04/03/2011 10:52:16 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Travis McGee

C’mon Travis. It’s worthy of discussion. Free men can take opposing viewpoints.


107 posted on 04/03/2011 10:52:43 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Maybe Jones knew something would happen, then again maybe he counted on the UN having some balls to actually mow down the savages when they did attack.


108 posted on 04/03/2011 10:53:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tex-Con-Man
"Radical Islam is the greatest threat "

OK, people - we've GOT to STOP using that term - radical islam. There is no such thing as "radical" islam or "moderate" islam. islam is islam - cruel and merciless and evil. Those "moderates" are people who choose not, at this time, to follow their "religion". A good muslim is one who is what everyone calls radical. A bad muslim is a moderate muslim, cuz they are NOT following their "religion".

109 posted on 04/03/2011 10:59:46 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly
OK, people - we've GOT to STOP using that term - radical islam.

Exactly, it's as ridiculous as the term "Radical Nazi."

110 posted on 04/03/2011 11:01:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
...then again maybe he counted on the UN having some balls to actually mow down the savages when they did attack.

U.N.? Balls? And attacking Muslims? does - not - compute

111 posted on 04/03/2011 11:02:08 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Never said the pastor was necessarily smart.


112 posted on 04/03/2011 11:03:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MestaMachine

Will do sounds like a perfect analogy.


113 posted on 04/03/2011 11:03:59 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You can’t be serious!

A bit of a stretch?

Have you forgotten that a CARTOON of Muhammed gets people killed??

Are you so disconnected on this threat we face to NOT believe that some day, they are actually going to say, as their latest excuse, INTERNET POSTINGS MADE US KILL INFIDELS!

Why is THAT such a stretch?

They alreay use a CARTOON as their excuse!


114 posted on 04/03/2011 11:03:59 AM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon
They alreay use a CARTOON as their excuse!

Next it could a Free Republic thread, such as this one.

115 posted on 04/03/2011 11:05:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tex-Con-Man

which of the following two stories will the media express the most outrage about?

U.S. pastor says he will put Mohammed ‘on trial’ next as Koran burning sparks second day of violence, leaving 10 dead, 78 injured

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372827/Terry-Jones-says-It-indented-stir-pot-Koran-burning-sparks-second-wave-violence-leaving-10-dead-78-hurt.html#ixzz1IQCtMOoC

Militant Muslim warns Royal wedding terror attack is ‘highly likely’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372291/Muslim-Anjem-Choudary-warns-Royal-wedding-terror-attack-highly-likely.html#ixzz1IQCYb8bx

So, what does it really matter if he wanted publicity on anything for anyways?

the responses to His actions PROVED his words were right!


116 posted on 04/03/2011 11:07:17 AM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

He should be thanked. Now, for the trial of the pedophile.


117 posted on 04/03/2011 11:07:56 AM PDT by Twinkie (WHERE'S ALL OF OBAMA'S RECORDS?)
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To: jackibutterfly

When Karzai denounces Muslim destruction of the Holy Bible, I’ll be impressed. *Crickets* . . . (thought so) . . .


118 posted on 04/03/2011 11:12:30 AM PDT by Twinkie (WHERE'S ALL OF OBAMA'S RECORDS?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“His stunt is doing nothing but getting people killed. (and BTW, his own daughter agrees with me.)”

Again with the blaiming the rape victim instead of the rapist. Terry didn’t kill anyone. He didn’t cause a need for anyone to be killed.

Islam is savagery practiced by the stupid and ignorant, pure and simple.


119 posted on 04/03/2011 11:12:36 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“I am a proud supporter of the Nuke Mecca wing of the Republican Party.”

I think you’re a liberal using such a phrase because you think that what the Republican Party is all about, which is a common misconception liberals ahave about Republicans.

I remind you that your boy Obama just attacked Libya.

Even your screen name seems to be calling Bush a “Texas Con Man.” If anyone is a con it’s your boy Obama, the mooselimb little big eared kid from Kenya.


120 posted on 04/03/2011 11:17:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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