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Michael Barone: No More Tea? Tea partiers still have to argue their case.
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | March 31, 2011 | Michael Barone

Posted on 04/01/2011 11:52:39 AM PDT by neverdem

No More Tea?
Tea partiers still have to argue their case.

Has the wind gone out of the sails of the small-government movement? Is the Tea Party going through a hangover?

You can find some evidence for these propositions. In Washington, Democrats such as former party chairman Howard Dean gleefully anticipate a government shutdown, and Sen. Charles Schumer thinks he can drive a wedge between Speaker John Boehner and “extremist” tea partiers.

In state capitals, some new Republican governors are getting hostile receptions to their plans for cutting spending and curtailing the power of public-employee unions.

In Ohio, Gov. John Kasich has only 30 percent approval, according to a Quinnipiac poll. Pennsylvania’s Tom Corbett, easily elected last November, has negative ratings as well.

And in the state that has made more headlines than any other this year, Wisconsin, Gov. Scott Walker is facing some headwinds. He did get the Republican legislature to pass limits on the bargaining powers of state-employee unions. And union dues aren’t going to be deducted from public employees’ next paychecks.

But the Democratic state senators’ tactic of leaving the state and the often violent protests at the state capitol have mobilized public-employee unions and their supporters.

A Polling Company poll conducted for Independent Women’s Voice showed 53 percent of voters with unfavorable feelings toward Walker and only 46 percent favorable. By a similar margin, voters sided with the public-employee unions over the governor in the recent controversy.

It should be noted that this poll has a small sample and a larger share of voters in union households (38 percent) than in the 2008 and 2010 Wisconsin exit polls (26 percent). And on issues of this kind, question wording can make a big difference in responses.

Next Tuesday, voters will have their say in an election for state supreme court. Incumbent Republican David Prosser is being challenged by Democrat JoAnne Kloppenberg, who is giving strong hints that she’ll uphold a dubious ruling by a lower court that the legislature acted illegally in limiting public-employee unions’ powers. A Prosser defeat would give Democrats a 4–3 edge on the court.

Off-year elections tend to have low turnout, and the public-employee unions are working hard to get their voters out. It’s unclear whether tea partiers and others whose enthusiasm and energy transformed Wisconsin from a 56–42 percent Obama state in 2008 to a 52–46 percent Walker state in 2010 will be similarly energized.

In addition, both parties have threatened to recall at least some of the other side’s state senators. Recall petitions are being circulated and require relatively few signatures.

The IWV poll says that voters would oppose recalling Democratic state senators by 60 percent to 38 percent but oppose recalling Republicans by only 52 percent to 43 percent.

There’s an assumption by many Republicans, seemingly shared by Walker, that voters settled these issues definitively in the November elections. But the IWV poll suggests that voters are not necessarily well informed and have been swayed by those who frame the issue as collective bargaining “rights.”

Respondents become more favorable to Walker’s position when informed that public employees are paid 45 percent more than private-sector union members and that union dues have been automatically deducted and go to support candidates that workers may not favor.

In New Jersey, a more Democratic state than Wisconsin, Gov. Chris Christie has won majority support in his struggles with public-employee unions by making his case repeatedly, with facts and figures, and with a forcefulness that has made his town-hall appearances YouTube hits.

Christie and Virginia governor Bob McDonnell, both elected in 2009, have won public acceptance of major spending cuts by making the alternatives and the facts clear.

Republicans in Wisconsin and other states, and Republican leaders in Washington, need to do the same. Given their druthers, voters oppose tax increases and spending cuts. But they’re responsive to the message that in these hard economic times, it’s not possible to have all good things.

They have seen that vast spending increases haven’t generated jobs, and they understand that tax increases can choke a sputtering economic recovery. Given the facts, they understand that public-employee unions inflate spending, reduce accountability, and operate as a mechanism for the involuntary transfer of taxpayer money to one political party.

The press won’t make that case. Republicans and tea partiers need to do it themselves.

Michael Barone is senior political analyst for the Washington Examiner. © 2011 The Washington Examiner.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: teaparty; teapartyexpress; teapartymovement; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 04/01/2011 11:52:41 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If we really need to make the case that 10% GDP deficits and >100% GDP debt is untenable then we are doomed anyway.


2 posted on 04/01/2011 12:04:40 PM PDT by DManA
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To: neverdem

Big government better hope the “small government” tea party has the energy and votes to topple big government before the total, useless weight of big government brings about its own collapse. The tea party way is better.


3 posted on 04/01/2011 12:04:57 PM PDT by pallis
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To: neverdem
The tea party has made its case and the liberals are trying to switch the discussion to their advantage. The liberal minority has not seceded in their program and have lost the argument.
4 posted on 04/01/2011 12:07:01 PM PDT by mountainlion (America land of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: DManA
If we really need to make the case that 10% GDP deficits and >100% GDP debt is untenable then we are doomed anyway.

BINGO! Taking on Public Unions brings out union members, of course. They have something to lose, regular citizens have something to gain - hopefully when recall elections and regular elections come around, regular citizens will be at the polls voting their pocketbook. Now is not the time to fold.

5 posted on 04/01/2011 12:11:28 PM PDT by unique
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To: neverdem

I ripped barone when this was posted yesterday... let me just say, “piss off barone”.

LLS


6 posted on 04/01/2011 12:20:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: neverdem

These articles are silly. Tea partiers have jobs and families and neither the time nor energy like the Madison mob who rally for weeks on end or the pundits who comment about it.


7 posted on 04/01/2011 12:22:31 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: kristinn
The Tea Party is at the point where its energies were spent winning the election. It appears they are 'waiting to see what they will do.' Meanwhile they're doing little to assure that the conservatives they elected succeed, not realizing that their taxes are paying the bureaucracy to resist any change in government spending habits.

So the fundamental difference is this: Conservatives must dig into their own pockets to fund their activism, while leftists already got their hands in there first. It's a deck stacked against us and it won't get any better until we both defund the beast AND use up their reserves. It would seem at the Federal level we lack the power to do either. Hence, the results are spotty as the article indicates.

To be sure, the differences in leadership are determinative. Scott Walker did not position his offensive correctly, where he should have stood for parity between state workers and the private sector. It would have actually been a more effective sale. He spent a lot of political capital without making the sale or getting very much.

8 posted on 04/01/2011 12:29:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: neverdem
No more cash?

The argument is self evident.

9 posted on 04/01/2011 12:36:24 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: neverdem
We should all keep quiet and let the Lefties think they’re ahead in the polls and jump out an surprise them in the election like Zoolander in the coalmine in November 2012.
10 posted on 04/01/2011 12:50:32 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: neverdem

The Tea Party is waiting to see what the results of last November are. Judging from the looks of things, they will be back in greater numbers.


11 posted on 04/01/2011 12:54:34 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: neverdem

Tea Party members gather when necessary. We actually work. We have kids, mortgage payments and lives. When called, we go where we need to be. The tea party is not dead. We’re trying to keep our houses!


12 posted on 04/01/2011 1:06:50 PM PDT by albie
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To: DManA

Michael Barone is full of himself. A Beltway Republican.
Akin to George Will, Krauthammer school.


13 posted on 04/01/2011 1:29:52 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: DManA

Michael Barone is full of himself. A Beltway Republican.
Akin to George Will, Krauthammer school.


14 posted on 04/01/2011 1:29:57 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: neverdem

Tea Partiers have to make their own political party. The GOP has proven not to be up to the job.


15 posted on 04/01/2011 1:36:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: ChiMark
Michael Barone is full of himself. A Beltway Republican. Akin to George Will, Krauthammer school.

So what? Barone is probably the best political analyst in the country with respect to elections. The two are no slouches either. Just because I have disagreements with all of them isn't a reason to ignore them when they're correct.

16 posted on 04/01/2011 1:40:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: PzLdr
Tea Partiers have to make their own political party. The GOP has proven not to be up to the job.

You want to split our forces and let the rats win, PzLdr? We have to take over the GOP. Primary the RINOs like Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana where possible. Keep the Scott Browns. We won't do any better in MA where the GOP number less than 12% in voter registration. Primary Collins in 2012. If successful, go after Snowe in 2014. Maine got a Tea Party guy as governor, and the GOP took the legislature in 2010.

The rats moved to the center to take Congress in 2006, and they repeated that in 2008 to enlarge their majority by recruiting candidates who promised fiscal probity and prolife and pro RKBA where needed in each of those elections. Why do you think there was no significant gun grabbing bills in the last two Congesses. The got concealed carry in national parks in the last Congress! They went hard left, otherwise, in the last Congress and lost spectacularly, even when they couldn't get cap & tax and immigration reform.

In some places, the best that you can get is a RINO, IMHO. Philosophical purity in our candidates can only be expected in some parts of the country.

17 posted on 04/01/2011 2:12:33 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ez
Judging from the looks of things, they will be back in greater numbers.

I'm thinking so. Liberals are just crazy to think that calling Tea Partiers names and hating on them are going to make them go away. They're only going to get more angry about the lack of real progress (not the insanity that liberals call progress).

IMHO

18 posted on 04/01/2011 3:24:16 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: neverdem

Michael Barone, have you stopped beating your wife?


19 posted on 04/01/2011 5:05:10 PM PDT by HonestConservative (http://freedomradiorocks.com/2011/03/28/diana-west-reveals-obamas-mission-in-libya/)
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To: neverdem

Nro is in the tank for rinos. And they hate the tea party and Sarah. Also John Fund, Byron York, Tucker, Fox allstars, write them all off we are on our own.


20 posted on 04/01/2011 5:17:29 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Sarah is the one)
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