Posted on 03/30/2011 12:49:22 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Springs man's claim to have Obama records starts buzz
A Colorado Springs “birther,” retired Air Force Col. Gregory Hollister, has Internet blogs abuzz with what may be an illegal foray into an online Social Security data base and how he obtained a copy of President Barack Obama’s draft registration from 1980.
“Col. Greg Hollister, USAF (Ret.) contacted the Selective Service, falsely impersonated President Obama, improperly registered his own address as President Obama’s address, and by this false impersonation and identity theft he managed to obtain a duplicate registration acknowledgement card with President Obama’s Selective Service information on it,” a blogger posted on gratewire.com last week. “This may violate several federal criminal statutes, and apparently caused the federal record of President Obama’s address with the Selective Service to be altered to show that he lives in Colorado Springs, CO.”
(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...
OMG,I just finished putting that picture up again and I see what you do..
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As you may see, I never got a valid answer to whether this specific SSN was recycled and used by someone else before Barry Soetoro got and used it???
A judge would just issue a gag order and/or order the confidentiality of certain disclosed documents.
Cordially,
That part wouldn’t surprise me...have you seen some of the “man on the street” interviews where they ask people basic questions and most don’t know the answer?
Thanks, always glad to know it isn’t my imagination. :)
We have got to keep Mr. Trump focused on this. I think he’s the only chance we’ve got right now to expose the fraud in the White House.
Go to shouldtrumprun.com “contact us” site. Send him a message of support whether or not he’s your potential pick for 2012"
I concur, 100%, on both scores.
Speaking of Trump, in case you (or others reading this) haven't seen/heard, he was on Laura Ingraham's Radio Show:
Donald Trump with Laura Ingraham: Proud to be a Birther; Ayers Wrote Obama's Book
And then, this video which was BOR's 2nd segment of the interview on 3/30/11, the birth cert issue talk begins around mark 2:30:
O'Reilly Donald Trump interview, March 30, 2011, Obama birth certificate
What's weak about it? According to Obama, he was enrolled at a private high school HI when the SSN was issued in CT. His address would have been a Hawaiian address, NOT a CT address. GET WITH THE PROGRAM!Oh, granted the Connecticut SSAN is... odd. But the point is, his SSAN has nothing to do with where he was born.
I, on the other hand, think the point here is that there is not one person on this earth that can attest to being perfect and utterly above making gaffe. I believe what Hollister said was just that, a gaffe. Kinda like obummers "I've been in 50 states" or Biden's 3 letter word "J.O.B.S.".
Kinda like obummers "I've been in 50 57 states"
Your having stated at post #213 and I quote your last sentence
"In the very unlikely event that I am in the company of these highest military officers, I WILL TURN MY BACK! I WILL SHUN THEM!", was where I responded. If you would like to retract the quote, please do.
Your thought regarding the Constitution is correct. I do stand by my post at #220 also, for there is Ordered Structure. I shall not turn my back on a single person in our Military, instead I shall stand straight and salute each and everyone of them for their service to our nation, and once more, should it be necessary to stand in front of an officer or officers or enlisted to receive enemy fire, and sacrifice myself, I would do such willingly, though I have never served.
Do not be angry with anyone in our Military, for each person, in our Military, stands in front of all Americans, so you and the majority of Americans do not have to defend themselves. Our Military (Men and Women) did take the oath to defend the Constitution, and there is only so far they (our Military) are allowed to go before the line of Order is crossed. If you are to remain angry, be angry with me. I ask you not be angry with anyone in our Military.
You said: “And then, this video which was BOR’s 2nd segment of the interview on 3/30/11, the birth cert issue talk begins around mark 2:30:”
I did see the interview. But I didn’t catch this little OMISSION by O’Reilly as another Freeper noted on different thread this morning.
O’Reilly mentioned that he saw the birth announcements in the two Honolulu newspapers BUT he didn’t repeat his comment that he actually “saw the birth certificate and held it in his hands” as he has so often stated while mocking Birthers or Proofers.
I find that omission curious.
LTC Lakin testified in his trial that highest military officers told him that they had serious concerns about Obama’s eligibility. I believe Lakin.
So?....If these highest military officers did have serious concerns it was ( and is) their **duty before God** to have these concerns clarified by Obama, the Congress, and/or the courts. Where is the evidence that they did so?
If our highest military officers had clarified the issue they would be able to boldly stand before their brave and honorable troops ( and the American people) and **plainly** state that Obama is absolutely a natural born citizen and a legitimate Commander in Chief. They would have been able to say to Major Cook and Captain Rhodes, “The evidence is absolutely certain. Obama is a natural born citizen.”
The duty of our highest military officers is to the **Constitution**! It is **NOT* to the Congress, the Supreme Court, or even to the people. Even if the Congress, the Supreme Court, the executive office, and the people fail to act to protect the Constitution, it is the **DUTY BEFORE GOD** for these highest officers to defend it against all enemies both foreign and **domestic**.
Since I believe LTC Lakin, that our highest military do have serious concerns about Obama’s eligibility, then, ( Yes! Indeed!) if in the unlikely event I am in their company, I will shun them. I will turn my back to them.
You are conflating **HIGHEST** military officers with the brave and honorable troops that serve under them.
I can not defend a strawman of you creation.
From Wiki:
Selective Service System created by the 1940 Act was terminated by the Act of March 31, 1947, and the Selective Service Act of 1948 created a new and separate system that is still in place today.[8] All males 18 years and older had to register for Selective Service. All males between the ages of 19 to 26 were eligible to be drafted for a service requirement of 21 months. This was followed by a commitment for either 12 consecutive months of active service or 36 consecutive months of service in the reserves, with a statutory term of military service set at a minimum of five years total. Conscripts could volunteer for military service in the Regular Army for a term of four years or the Organized Reserves for a term of six years. Due to deep postwar budget cuts, only 100,000 conscripts were chosen in 1948. In 1950, the number of conscripts was greatly increased to meet the demands of the Korean War. Selective Service System created by the 1940 Act was terminated by the Act of March 31, 1947, and the Selective Service Act of 1948 created a new and separate system that is still in place today.
On January 27, 1973, Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird announced the creation of an all-volunteer armed forces, negating the need for the military draft. On March 29, 1975, President Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18–25 year old male citizens.[9] On July 2, 1980, however, President Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18–26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960
LTC Lakin testified in court that the highest military officers told him that they had serious questions about Obama’s eligibility. So?...Where is the evidence that they sought clarification from Congress and the Supreme Court. I haven't seen any evidence that they did so."
I've *got* to believe that they may have questions, but they don't know for a fact he's a usurper. Otherwise, they *would* be acting in a treasonous manor, protecting/supporting/taking orders from an illegal President.
And your right, why...then, haven't they sought clarification from Congress? Perhaps they have but have been told to ignore the "birther issue."
Most people would find that troubling as well.
Regarding Lakin...
During his court martial, LTC Lakin stated to the court that he sought advice and confirmation of Barry's eligibility and his orders being lawful from (& the results):
* legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds - Result = Ignored him.
* his commander and supervisor - Who acknowledge there IS an issue. - Result = They don't know what to do.
* Submits Article 138 complaint to his company commander - Result = they tell him his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didn’t have to answer it.
* LTC Lakin then writes letters to his congressional "representation" - Result = 1 Senator ignores him, the other say's the issue was "twittered" and therefore resolved and his Congressman forwards this issue to military affairs but apparently doesn't get answers to Lakin's questions and concerns.
* After being transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinic’s commander - Result = Commander acknowledges there IS an issue BUT had no guidance as to what to do.
* LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey - Result = General Casey wasn’t in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldn’t be addressed.
* LTC Lakin then goes to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. They acknowledge there IS an issue BUT the media ridiculed it. Result = they let it go.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2643627/posts?page=1#1
Not sure what the law was at the time Barry was in Indonesia...but as of now, a minor may...under their own will, renounce U.S. citizenship:
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN
Did Barry? Who knows!
Yes, and this leads to a circular argument used by many who are defending our highest military leaders.
The domestic enemy of the Constitution orders the highest military to ignore the issue, and because it is an order, the highest military do ignore it because they can't absolutely prove it. And...The only person who can prove or disprove whether he is a domestic enemy is the domestic enemy.
I am DISGUSTED!
If the highest military suspect that Obama is not eligible they have a DUTY before GOD, to the honorable troops serving under them, and to our Constitution TO SEEK DEFINITIVE and **CERTIFIED PROOF** and CLARIFICATION from Congress, Obama, and/or the Supreme Court. Anything less is **despicable** and a GRAVE disservice to their troops and to the Constitution.
Again...If in the unlikely event that I am in the presence of these highest military I WILL TURN MY BACK!
Sometimes it is best one walk away and say no more. This is one of those times for me. If there is something more you wish to say or type, I will do you the courtesy of reading your comment(s).
The floor is yours, wintertime.
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