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Girl, 11, lured into a park restroom and 'gang raped by seven teens from a street gang'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 28th March 2011

Posted on 03/28/2011 6:05:49 PM PDT by WaterBoard

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To: Jack Hydrazine
? you must of hit your head!

Don't you know that diversity is our strength!

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ROFL

41 posted on 03/28/2011 7:11:24 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: WaterBoard
I think it's time for some old-fashioned punishments. A passage from Samuel Pepys Diary in 1660 discusses what I think should happen to barbarians who commit crimes like that rape.

"To my Lord’s in the morning, where I met with Captain Cuttance, but my Lord not being up I went out to Charing Cross, to see Major- general Harrison hanged, drawn, and quartered; which was done there, he looking as cheerful as any man could do in that condition.

"He was presently cut down, and his head and heart shown to the people, at which there was great shouts of joy. ...Thus it was my chance to see the King beheaded at White Hall, and to see the first blood shed in revenge for the blood of the King at Charing Cross. From thence to my Lord’s, and took Captain Cuttance and Mr. Sheply to the Sun Tavern, and did give them some oysters."

42 posted on 03/28/2011 7:12:04 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: heartwood

They do - when they’re in prison.


43 posted on 03/28/2011 7:24:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

[[I just pointed that out, because it always seems like such a cop out to depend on them getting mistreated in jail, or being sent to hell after death.]]

Well, eternity in hell isn’t a copout, as those maggots will soon learn- nightmare doesn’t even come close to describing the pain/fear and sufferign they ARE goign to receive there-

[[I want JUSTICE now!]]

I understand- so do i- however, there is NO TRUE justice anymore in public courts- by all rights, these maggots should be shoved in deplorable conditions while they await a horrbile death- made to fear every day until execution day- but bleeding heart liberals put a stop to true justice, and the ‘eye for an eye’ and the ‘sow and reap in likekind’ justice of old, and so maggots like those freaks don’t FEAR our justice system anymore- bleeding heart liberals saw to that


44 posted on 03/28/2011 7:30:39 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: dsc

It is long past time to wait upon the govt justice system to protect and serve the community. These people need lynched, the very day they are found guilty. You can bet the perps will get 20 years, and serve 5. The girl will get 10 and become pregnant, and allowed to raise her child in a halfway house/community outreach center, then released in 3 years.


45 posted on 03/28/2011 7:33:09 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are busily emptying our reservoirs)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

These people would be the same if they were raised in a loving home. People are what they are, with very few exceptions. This was not a robbery, a slaying of rivals or drug sales, this kind of act comes from actual indwelling evil. One third of all creation rebelled against God, they are now living among us. This is their chance at salvation, and they are “rebelling” until the last.


46 posted on 03/28/2011 7:37:20 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are busily emptying our reservoirs)
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To: WaterBoard

For all the bluster and idle talk of vigilantism, let’s understand what will actually happen to these little dears.

They’ll be given free legal counsel, at our expense. If they elect to go to trial, that will also be at our expense.

Assuming conviction, they will be incarcerated. At our expense. During that term of incarceration, they will be provided three meals a day, housing, clothing, warmth in the winter, air conditioning in the summer. They won’t have to wait for obamacare: their medical and dental care will be provided for them. At our expense.

And some day, probably quite soon, the little dears will be let go. They’ll be put on some useless sex offender registry. At our expense. And then they’ll most likely go off to rape, rob, or murder again.

You get what you pay for.


47 posted on 03/28/2011 7:37:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Repudiate the national debt)
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To: rabidralph

I don’t know how this would contribute to the breakdown of society. It would force the government to act in the manner of true Justice, or lose their hold on the rich mans playpen they romp in.


48 posted on 03/28/2011 7:39:52 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are busily emptying our reservoirs)
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To: dsc

You are exactly right. They should be hanged in the public square. Until we get serious about crime nothing is going to change. It is not that difficult. The answers are simple.


49 posted on 03/28/2011 7:43:18 PM PDT by freemike ("Life is hard. It's harder if your stupid." Joyhn Wayne)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Are you serious, some things are unforgivable, and from my reading of the Bible, all injured will have to forgive the offending party before they can come before God for forgiveness. This is murder of the soul, and premeditated at that. The only one that can fix this is God, and no last minute conversion will help out this kind. Your very words More likely they will have a conversion experience before they die and will be seated right beside you in heaven. make a mockery of the forgiveness/redemption gift we are given. I suppose Ted Bundy could repent as he was strapped in, and be sitting next to Hitler and Moses, because he repented too.
50 posted on 03/28/2011 7:45:34 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are busily emptying our reservoirs)
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To: dsc

This is a good case for genetic eradication.


51 posted on 03/28/2011 8:16:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: freemike

“It is not that difficult. The answers are simple.”

Which is why the leftards have tried to establish the word “simplistic” as a conversation-stopper.


52 posted on 03/28/2011 8:28:40 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: USNBandit

“a majority of them had child rape on their rap sheets”

And they’re still drawing the breath of life?

Things have gotten very, very bad.


53 posted on 03/28/2011 8:31:56 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“This is a good case for genetic eradication.”

Is there a child-rape gene?


54 posted on 03/28/2011 8:33:12 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: runninglips

“from my reading of the Bible, all injured will have to forgive the offending party before they can come before God for forgiveness.”

Where would that be?


55 posted on 03/28/2011 8:34:32 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: WaterBoard

Every perp in the rape, including the older female,

chop them all off. The guys’ junk and the older female’s junk.


56 posted on 03/28/2011 8:35:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: dsc
Washington State. We've got revolving door justice around here. We have a local nutbag that violated a state dept of corrections order barring him from two counties. He was back out in less than two months with the prohibition lifted. Less than a week later he was wanted for an assault in one of those counties.

When people complain about the police not stopping crime, they should see the percentage of those people that have been convicted of major crimes before. The criminal justice system is definitely a catch and release environment.

57 posted on 03/28/2011 8:47:22 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: WaterBoard

Quakers, right?


58 posted on 03/28/2011 8:52:16 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: dsc
OK, I should have said scripture, great teachings.

The execution of Karla Faye Tucker polarized public opinion around the world. Tucker, a former prostitute and drug addict, murdered two people in 1983 with a pickaxe. In prison, Tucker became a born again Christian, got her high school equivalency diploma, and eventually married the prison chaplain. Because of her dramatic transformation on death row, many, including supporters of the death penalty, called for her sentence to be commuted. After all her appeals were rejected, Tucker was executed by lethal injection. Her execution raises a difficult question: Should a criminal who repents be executed for her crimes? Both the Bible and the Talmud are clear that repentance changes divine judgement. The prophet Ezekiel (18:21-23) writes: "But if the wicked will turn from all the sins which he has committed, and keep all my statutes...he shall surely live, and shall not die...Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? Says the Lord, God; and not rather that he should return from his ways and live?". The Talmud (Kiddushin 40b) says that when a person repents, all previous sins are forgotten by God. Repentance has the ability to erase one's sins before God. While repentance can reverse divine judgement, it has less influence on human judgement. There are instances where penalties are changed or waived in order to facilitate repentance (Baba Kamma 66b; Rambam Gezielah 1:13). However, the Talmud (Makkot 13b) states that a criminal guilty of a capital crime is put to death, even if they have repented. Considering that in the divine court, a repentant person "shall surely live, and shall not die", why don't human courts follow God's example and grant clemency to repentant criminals? Four answers are given to this question. Some say (Maharal, Derech Chaim chapter 4) that there is a fundamental distinction between divine justice and mundane, human justice. Divine justice is based on a person's relationship with God. If a person has repaired his relationship with God through repentance, than he will be forgiven by God for his sins. In human courts, justice is based solely on past actions; therefore, no amount of repentance can change what has already been done. Another answer (Abrabanel Exodus 7:3) focuses on a deficiency in the murderer's repentance. Repentance for sins between man and his fellow man is not complete until the person wronged has forgiven the criminal for his sin (Yoma 85b). In a case of murder, it is impossible to do complete repentance, because it is impossible to receive forgiveness from the victim; the forgiveness of the victim's family is not enough. Considering this, it is impossible for a murderer to do complete repentance, and be forgiven. Others argue (Nodah BeYehuda OC I:35) that if we would allow repentant killers to avoid the death penalty, then everyone on death row would repent, and the death penalty would never be used. Without the death penalty, there would be less to deter future murders. In order to deter future murders from plaguing the community, we must execute all murderers, even if they have repented.

Since God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, we err when imagining that all aspects of his law and nature have been passed away. Forgiveness in Judaic law depends upon asking and receiving it from the harmed party. Since a murderer, which is what I was really referencing, cannot ask for or receive forgiveness from the murdered, he cannot be forgiven until after his death, if even then. I know many people believe wrongly that all things taught before Jesus' birth, death and resurrection are no more, it is not true.

59 posted on 03/28/2011 9:01:39 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are busily emptying our reservoirs)
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To: runninglips

Yeshua came to FULFILL the law, not do away with it.


60 posted on 03/28/2011 9:02:13 PM PDT by runninglips (the world is on fire, and we are busily emptying our reservoirs)
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