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1 posted on 03/28/2011 4:46:32 PM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 03/28/2011 4:50:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Prosecutors only care about one thing: obtaining a conviction. They would sell their own children down the river if it put another notch in the win column.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 4:56:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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Jury nullification was in order.


5 posted on 03/28/2011 4:59:57 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: neverdem

Zoo Jersey should be expelled from the USA


6 posted on 03/28/2011 5:03:14 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: neverdem

I’d be hard pressed to speak to either the mother ever again.


7 posted on 03/28/2011 5:05:53 PM PDT by Jonty30
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There’s a happy ending: On December 20, Gov. Christie commuted Aitken’s sentence. Aitken came home on December 23rd. His felony conviction still stands, but he will fight to clear his record through the appeals process.
No. A happy ending would be
1. A pardon or retrial where he is cleared.
2. Prosecutors sued and losing their jobs for prosecutorial misconduct.
3. Some punishment for the lying judge.
4. New Jersey's laws changed.

Aitken remains a criminal thanks to the trial, and Crhistie remains a Rino blowhard.

8 posted on 03/28/2011 5:09:59 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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It might even make some New Jersey gun owners wonder if they have more to fear from the state’s ridiculous laws and overly aggressive cops and prosecutors than they do from criminals. Given what happened to Aitken, those fears wouldn’t be unfounded.

In this day and age of "Nifonging" prosecutors and militarized police agencies, law abiding citizens have WAY more to fear from government and "law enforcement" than criminals do.

9 posted on 03/28/2011 5:10:01 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: neverdem

Why does Christie get a pass because he commuted the sentence when a full pardon was in order?


10 posted on 03/28/2011 5:10:49 PM PDT by st.eqed
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FTA: Sue Aitken called the police because she was worried about her son Brian. She now lives with the guilt of knowing her phone call is the reason Brian wound up sitting in a New Jersey prison.

I feel for the mother; she clearly didn't plan to cause harm to her son.

But the fact is that anyone in New Jersey who wishes to do harm to another person has an easy path to take due to these laws.

Law abiding citizens in New Jersey ought to be very concerned about this and should do something before they find themselves caught up in the labyrinthine mess that constitutes Garden State gun regulations.

11 posted on 03/28/2011 5:14:46 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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And some can’t understand why so many of us despise the pigs.


14 posted on 03/28/2011 5:34:37 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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“Putting Brian Aitken in prison wouldn’t have made New Jersey any safer.”

And given demographic realities, the more NJ gun owners who move out of the state, the less safe those who are left will be. The ultimate aim of the anti-gunners in NJ is a state where gun ownership is outlawed. It will become like Chicago, where the rate of firearm-related crime is high. But the clueless liberals who banned guns to be safer will never think that they were wrong. In my opinion these people have blood on their hands.


16 posted on 03/28/2011 5:40:04 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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If it weren’t for a commutation

Commutation,not a pardon from the closet gun grabber.

22 posted on 03/28/2011 6:50:05 PM PDT by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about lying politicians.)
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Every American should be a fully informed juror:

http://fija.org/

The Fully Informed Jury Association is an asset to American freedom.


30 posted on 03/28/2011 8:35:35 PM PDT by marktwain
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Once you're a felon somewhere in the USA, you're a felon everywhere in the USA. In most cases, that's good, but the slippery slope has been sliding in recent years.

'Felon' used to mean 'bad person who needs to be locked away from society', but now it includes people who kill a seagull with a rolled up newspaper that tried to eat their ice cream at the beach, a dirt biker that runs over a desert tortoise, or some slob who pours his used motor oil down a storm drain. I'm sure that in some states, they'd make Dick Cheney or Michael Moore a felon just for being alive.

It's not necessary that you actually serve the sentence of a felon, only that the government 'felonizes' you through a plea deal.

What this poor bastard did in New Jersey is in no way illegal in my state.

Point is, until this is settled someday, stay out of nanny states. They're usually crime holes anyway.

37 posted on 03/29/2011 12:04:16 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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It might even make some New Jersey gun owners wonder if they have more to fear from the state’s ridiculous laws and overly aggressive cops and prosecutors than they do from criminals.

Why does the author seem to think the two groups (officials and criminals) are disjoint? A citizen's biggest fear should be of criminals (like the judge in this case) who are on the state's payroll.

39 posted on 03/29/2011 12:08:03 AM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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I’ve read this story numerous times. The part I don’t get is why the limpwristed jury decided to convict him when they knew it was wrong. Those people are just as much to blame as the police, prosecutor and judge. The citizens of this country are lost. This country is lost.


40 posted on 03/29/2011 2:54:25 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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It saddens me that the place I first called home is now a de facto police state.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

41 posted on 03/29/2011 4:00:50 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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It might, however, make some of the state’s residents think twice before calling the police, particularly if they own guns.

Bears repeating. The police are NOT on your side.

42 posted on 03/29/2011 4:09:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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Unfortunately that is New Jersey...Most of us who do not live there can throw rocks at all the infringements that are vehemently supported and enforced by all levels within that state...

As a gun owner you are not going to get any sympathy or pass, based upon commonsense and honest objective analysis from those same entities...

They have a good start with Christie, and again, unfortunately, gun ownership is not on his top ten list of things he needs to get done in that state...

Actually come to think of it the guy got off pretty well with the governor giving him this commutation...But I seriously doubt he’ll get anywhere with the courts to espunge (clean up) his record...

Hind sight is always twenty-twenty, and for the longest time those of us who pay attention to a lot fo gun ownership news and issues know New Jersey is absolutely hostile to gun owners from the viewpoint of the legislature and the courts, and most important the law enforcement side of the equation...

Its been a long time developing into such an oppressive sub-culture within this country, and it is going to take a long time, if at all, to change it to being something attractive for anyone like us to want to move, or even visit that state...

The judge in this case may be unemployed, and rightfully so because of a whole plethra of offensive rulings against many other people, and not just this guys case...But the system is still in place, and unless the governor is willing to take the PR hit, he will have to get on prime time and explain to those in the judicial system in that state and explain to them that this oppressive nature this state exemplifies is no longer acceptable at any level of that system...

New Jersey will always be someplace I will not like going to if I have to or not because they do not respect my individual right to keep and bear arms per the state law, and even the US Constitution...

But this is just my opinion...


44 posted on 03/29/2011 4:53:24 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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Even the jurors who convicted him seem to have been looking for a reason to acquit Aitken. But the judge gave them little choice.

Yes, JURORS are there to do the JUDGE's bidding. D'oh! Tools.

45 posted on 03/29/2011 5:04:36 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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