[Brookhaven]

So all Trump has managed to do is muddy the waters even more.

This is the document that has the baby’s footprints on one side, and info about the baby hand written on the other side. It is usually filled out in the delivery room, and later given to the parents. I don’t know the technical name for it, but that isn’t the long form birth certificate.

It’s the hospital’s “certificate of birth” or something like that. The long form birth certificate is on file with the state, and the state holds the original copy.

As someone stated, the forms look nothing alike.

[LibsRJerks]

http://www.jamaicahospital.org/index.php

A hospital in NY.

[dennisw]

It’s the hospital’s “certificate of birth” or something like that.>>>>>>>>>

Right. This is not even a digitized short form that Obama people waved around. What Trump has given out is a very nice looking document that looks a bit like a diploma, that the hospital of birth has on file and can give you a copy. Unless the hospital has awful record keeping

And like you say, baby’s footprints on the back

[American Constitutionalist]

" So all Trump has managed to do is muddy the waters even more."

It's better that the waters are stirred up and muddy, and going somewhere, then, water that is stagnant and smelly and not going anywhere.