Posted on 03/27/2011 10:20:21 AM PDT by curth
Throttle the US, so the Turd World can catch up, its the New World Order, doncha know.
Why haven’t we been using these resources all along ... say for the last 50 years or so, rather than become so dependent on foreign energy sources?
Why haven’t we been using these resources all along ... say for the last 50 years or so, rather than become so dependent on foreign energy sources?
So Obama is just following in the tradition of the last 50 years or so? The plan is to deplete the resources elsewhere first? If this is the plan, then why are so many people up in arms about Obama and energy policy?
Energy supplies the engine. No energy, no engine.
Yes I understant that.
But my question is still unanswered.
Why weren’t we extractly and using our great amounts of energy (according to the article) all along ... say for the past 50 years or so instead of becoming so depending on foreign sources of energy?
Anyone?
“If this is the plan, then why are so many people up in arms about Obama and energy policy?”
Only speaking for myself, I Would Like To See American Workers Employed.
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I do think he is following the same policy. However, the middle east is in flames. Now is the time to end the game. Time to open up our resources.
I agree that the EPA is being used to an extent. But if they were not a tool, another tool would be found. We need to look to those that pull the strings. And the EPA is just one of many puppets.
They control the debate. They hold the reins of power in both parties which is why we only see lip-service given to opening up domestic resources. The biggest push I’ve seen recently occurred in 2008 and then it was immediately countered by the Obama admin but even when the Republicans had complete control what happened? They did very little to build more refineries, more coal plants, to open up vast resources for mining and drilling. This is an issue that I have to say indicates more and more that the conspiracy nuts may indeed be right. The Green menace is just one part of the effort to keep America down the real power is not with the environuts it is in those we have elected who continue to avoid using their power to open up the vast reserves of energy this country has. There is a reason why the issues that most Americans see as pressing in poll after poll get little or no attention in DC while those issues that the press and political class see as essential take top billing. They have ‘bigger goals’. The Tea party presents the first time in a long time that a true commonsense America oriented political group of any real scope or size has wielded any power that forces Washington to actually consider the will and consent of the people. It will be through the vehicle of the Tea party that we can open up the vast reserves and restore American greatness.
Hmmmm. I was unaware it was a tea party goal to open up vast reserves of energy.
I thought they were sent to Washington to reduce the size of Federal government and reign in Federal spending.
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High prices are their own solution (drilling increases). Low prices are, too (drilling stops).
Some of the seed money for some of the first Environmentalist organizations (i.e. Greenpeace--not Conservation, but Environmentalism) allegedly came from the KGB. They hoped to hamper Western industry during the Cold War. They succeeded wildly, underestimating the level of regulation Americans would put up with.
Working with oil companies? Nope. Just about anything to stop us from drilling.
Cost increases are simple enough to account for--the technology required to extract oil is far more expensive than it used to be.
We use drilling and production enhancement techniques which did not exist when gasoline was $0.25 a gallon--and those quarters (silver) now have a melt value of over six bucks.
Joe if the EPA is not working with the oil companies and is instead working with the KGB, who is the majority of our Congress working with? The answer appears to be the KGB, whereby the EPA would be in the position to help Congress extract payment from the oil companies (which inflates prices) thereby accomplishing the objectives of an enemy of the USA, as your post stated. Therefore with our currency devalued (as is) and prices inflated (as are) the value of the oil and coal reserves are therefore more valuable (for collateral) if left in the ground. China, Russia, the Middle East have performed checkmate, unless the people of this country demand Congress and our leaders drill and mine? Are these your thoughts, or similar thoughts, or did I misunderstand your post? And you may be correct that the oil companies are one of the victims, if I understood your post. Could you elaborate?
It is obvious that God had a hand in the construction of America.
The EPA is a US Government entity. I did not say they were ever working with the KGB.
I said the KGB donated seed money to get 'activist' environmental organizations going in the '70s. They did. It was one of the early uses of asymmetrical warfare in the Cold War.
The influence of those environmental activists is surely felt in the EPA now, but the EPA is still part of the US Government.
I am a geologist on an oil rig in North Dakota. We've been drilling the Bakken up here for ten years, on private land, where even the EPA and Department of the Interior have not been able to find a gimmick to shut things down, even under Obama.
While the Government and the media constantly blame the oil companies for high prices, it is government policy which has made it difficult or impossible in many parts of the US to extract oil.
Government raises gas taxes, and blames the oil companies, Government closes areas to drilling they leased for exploration after oil companies spent millions doing the preliminary work (parts of WY, UT, AK, the Deepwater Gulf of Mexico to mention a few areas), and again blames the oil companies for high prices. Most people even think the oil companies set the price, when it is bid for like any other major commodity--the buyer sets the price.
I, after years of busting my ass in the oil patch am ever amazed at the nonsense I read blaming the oil companies for everything from hens that won't lay to cows who give sour milk.
I am further amazed by people who stand next to a $50,000 SUV drinking $10 a gallon bottled water (one small bottle at a time) and bitch about gas prices with a 'save the planet' sticker on the back bumper, and then drive home to a $500,000 McMansion in the 'burbs. They just don't see the pattern (everything went up, except the value of the currency).
When gas was .25 a gallon, a new car cost $2000.00, a nice, if more modest, house cost $25,000--what went up more? And, as I have pointed out, the silver in that vintage quarter is worth over six bucks today.
Everyone wants the other guy to take it in the shorts, they want 150K to shuffle paper in an office 9-5, five days a week with sick days and coffee breaks and vacations and all the benefits, but they don't want to pay the people who work 100 hour weeks in the boonies to find what they want to have cheap.
There is no big conspiracy, except for the socialists (think Soros) and their useful idiots.
Sure, oil companies donate to political parties, so do companies who make stuffed animal toys. Maybe they are price fixing with the CPSC?
Nope, probably not. More like markets at work.
Our currecy is inflated because the Fed keeps printing more to 'loan' our governement to cover Government spending on Socialist programs.
An end to the welfare state (and a return to Constitutional limitations on Government) would help bring that back into line, and provide a wider tax base as well, but then, all those votes we paid for (indirectly) just wouldn't stay bought if they had to pay taxes too.
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