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Claims about the danger of second hand tobacco smoke are rather dubious, IMHO. I can accept the reports of an increased risk of upper respiratory infections, but not much else.

One of the kickers about the War On Some Drugs, it was black politicos that advocated much greater penalties for crack than regular cocaine. Now, they're whining that the differences in sentencing, saying it's racist!

1 posted on 03/26/2011 12:31:20 AM PDT by neverdem
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The WOD has been a terrible mistake ,but the police and petty tyrants are addicted to the power and money.Don’t expect it to end.


2 posted on 03/26/2011 1:04:03 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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I have to agree. The War On Drugs is a total failure, and it is probably unconstitutional as well if we really look at it. It is the same old ‘road to hell paved with good intentions’.


3 posted on 03/26/2011 1:27:57 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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If drugs were largely legal in the U.S. how would Mexico and Canada be forced to bring their drug laws into alignment with the U.S. laws?
4 posted on 03/26/2011 1:46:24 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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So.... let anyone access whatever they want, regardless of situation?


6 posted on 03/26/2011 1:49:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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I mentioned to some friends of mine that the bad economy had caused most of the illegal aliens to leave town in the last two years. They replied; "No, the real reason they left is because CO has Medical Marijuana now and they can't sell their Mexican pot anymore. That's how most of them were making money."

It made sense. Anyone can get pot now in smokeable or edible forms and the quality is far better. If you get your MM card you can grow your own. I kind of wondered because a lot of the Mexicans worked in restaurants and motels, apart from construction, and they haven't laid anyone off.

So there was one problem solved for this town.

8 posted on 03/26/2011 1:59:55 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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How much of a loser can a person be when alcohol is not enough for them?


9 posted on 03/26/2011 2:00:34 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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I’m in agreement, the policy is a failure, and the cure is worse than the disease. Refreshing to see this on American Thinker!

Personally, I think this is an issue that more GOP candidates, especially those in battleground states, might want to think about. There’s a majority of Americans who are looking at these issues a lot more realistically than the government or either party does, and we might be able to pick up some votes on this.

I know a lot of Conservatives disagree and think this would be weakening our stance on social issues, but if the policy can’t work in reality, we are doing no favor to Conservative principles by pursuing it so doggedly. Isn’t it the left who pursue policies based on their desires and not based on pragmatism?

Another thing that I think makes this a true Conservative issue is the personal responsiblity angle. If we believe that citizens in general are trustworthy enough to own deadly weapons, then what sense does it make to treat people like children when it comes to drugs?


10 posted on 03/26/2011 2:01:12 AM PDT by Boogieman (")
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The first Prohibition funded the Kennedy family dynasty. Think of what a disaster that's been for the entire world.

My other random thought is that the WOD makes me a bit nervous when I buy a used car, since I never know if the previous owner stashed some goodies that a cop's dog might find two years hence and use that reason to sieze my vehicle and destroy my life.

28 posted on 03/26/2011 4:27:21 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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I’m surprised that the American Thinker has jumped on this, but they’re basically right. The WOD is just providing a de facto economic subsidy for the drug cartels and gangbangers. Not to mention corrupting police who shift their priorities toward drug law enforcement to take advantage of the property seizures.

The WOD has proven to be an epic failure. This is like so many other issues in that the states need to plot their own course. I suspect that given the choice some states will decide to legalize as much as they can, while others will remain in prohibition mode, with others taking a middle tack.


30 posted on 03/26/2011 4:58:52 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Repudiate the national debt)
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There are a lot of good arguments here, for and against. I guess I have to come down on the side of ending this farce called the WOD.

I could care less what one person or another medicates themselves with as long as they aren’t working for me at something critical.

What I do care about is the rule of law. Our government has enacted a law that is unenforceable. Our citizens, by an overwhelming number choose to ignore this law. If this law is viewed in such a derogatory manner by such a number of citizens, could not a citizen reasonably conclude that there are most likely many more laws which are equally absurd and should be ignored as well.

And what should a citizen conclude about the people tasked with enforcing this ineffectual and offensive, ignored law? What level of respect should be afforded to them, if any? How should a man’s neighbors feel about the cops who took away a family’s home because they found a half a dozen plants growing behind the chicken coop?

I like most all of the cops that I know here locally. Most of them were born and raised here. I have every confidence that should I ever be in trouble and need their help, they will be here. I don’t like the idea that young people in our community might not respect our LEO’s to the degree that they should because of some of the outdated laws they are asked to enforce.

I want our laws to be respected and obeyed, all of them. If there are some stupid laws, get rid of them.


31 posted on 03/26/2011 5:02:34 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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“There is always soma, delicious soma, half a gramme for a half-holiday, a gramme for a week-end....”
So wrote Aldous Huxley in “Brave New World.”
Legal or illegal, our nation’s addiction is taking us down the road to a “Brave New World” - a destination that can destroy us.
Unemployed, half-employed, poorly educated, absorbed by the latest sensation, we have millions who turn to drugs for relief from reality. That just won’t stand very long.


33 posted on 03/26/2011 5:04:57 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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And let's not forget prostitution. That should be legal as well. Quality would go up, cost would go down. It seems to me that all the same arguments would apply. All forms of gambling should also be completely legal. All pornography laws should also be eliminated. Did I forget anything?
34 posted on 03/26/2011 5:08:22 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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“Land of the free, home of the brave”. Hey, I have no desire to use what are now illegal drugs, and I am subject to random drug tests at work, and that is fine with me (Pilot, and I am sure it is fine with you)

My problem with our present drug laws is the nanny state taking our freedoms to protect us from ourselves. Like putting us in a child’s play pen, or a velvet lined cage for our own good. Some might not mind being treated like a child, but I do.

Motorcycle helmets, seat belt laws, drugs that require a prescription, and stupid labels that tell me not to stick my hands into a operating lawn mower or not to use the wrong end of a chainsaw.

-Really, think about it. We are doing nature and our gene pool a severe disservice by denying nature the cleansing process of natural selection, and survival of the fittest. 500 years from now we are going to be too stupid to survive without big government.

(And anyone who wears a helmet while riding a bike looks to me like metrosexual wimp, sorry)


35 posted on 03/26/2011 5:12:17 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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It has long been my opinion that nothing will change re: the WOD until conservatives get behind the move for change. It needs to be openly talked about in politically conservative circles, IMHO.


39 posted on 03/26/2011 5:29:59 AM PDT by sweet_diane (Adoption, the beautiful choice!)
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“Drug gangs would lose their source of income and would cease being able to buy weapons, bribe officials with big money, and assassinate people. They would stop being able to terrorize people on the streets, travelers on America’s borders, or the country of Mexico”

That’s right. If we legalize drugs, the criminal element in our society would suddenly become law abiding citizens. I also have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell.

Laws do not create crime. Criminals create crime. We ended Prohibition, so the criminals turned to gambling. We legalized gambling in many places, so the criminals turned to drugs. If we legalize drugs, where will the criminals go? The asnwer has already appeared- sex slaves. Will we then legalize that?


40 posted on 03/26/2011 5:40:32 AM PDT by bobjam
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decriminalize drugs?


41 posted on 03/26/2011 5:56:55 AM PDT by Twinkie (WHERE ARE OBAMA'S RECORDS? ALL of them.)
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You’d think our coke snorting, pot selling President would agree.


44 posted on 03/26/2011 6:09:18 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers - Good to the last drop!)
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You’d think our coke snorting, pot selling President would agree.


45 posted on 03/26/2011 6:09:18 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers - Good to the last drop!)
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I once thought that the “war” on drugs was guaranteeing public safety, but the more one looks at it, the more it resembles Prohibition on steroids. The responsibility belongs to the states anyway.


50 posted on 03/26/2011 6:51:32 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of love, peace, and goodwill, and if you say that they aren't, they'll kill you)
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Just because your school has had a loosing basketball team, you don’t do away with basketball. You get a better coach and recruit better players. It is quite easy to win the war if it was fought correctly.


55 posted on 03/26/2011 7:25:03 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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