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I understand that property rights must be respected. There are always arguments around the boundaries. For example, we grant eminent domain for utilities, and that infringes on property rights. I think this minor infringement, to allow a much greater utilization of another right, is acceptable.
1 posted on 03/23/2011 4:59:03 AM PDT by marktwain
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I would go just the other way. To protect private property rights, the slight (even illusory) infringment on gun rights to allow a much greater utilization of another right is acceptable. I should be able to dictate whether someone can carry on my property.


2 posted on 03/23/2011 5:06:13 AM PDT by circlecity
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We got this passed in Florida some time ago. It is a basically a "don't ask, don't tell" law. The law prohibits business owners from asking employees if they have the required concealed weapon permit. Even if a firearm is discovered in an employees car, the employer has no way to know if the employee has a CWP because it is not public record in Florida. Also the law provides civil and criminal immunity for the employer if that firearm is used on the property.
6 posted on 03/23/2011 5:30:47 AM PDT by bruoz
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I understand that property rights must be respected.

I do too. However, my private vehicle property rights supercedes his parking lot property rights, imo. As long as my guns stay in my vehicle, I don't see where he has the right to violate my property rights.

38 posted on 03/23/2011 7:10:36 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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My car is who's property again?

I'm still uncertain why this is an issue. More like a power play type thing between both sides.

Business owners: If you don't want to hire gun owners. Fine. Have the balls to say so outright.

Gun owners: Why are you working for anti-gun people? They don't give a tin sh*t about your safety or your Rights.

67 posted on 03/23/2011 8:57:11 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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We had all of this debate in Florida. Disney World & Publix Supermarkets $$$ vs their employees and the rest of the general public. In the end the state said that in order to have a gun locked in your car on their premises (parking lot) you have to have a CWP. The law prohibits employers from asking their employees (or customers) if they have a CWP.

MouseWorld “We can't ask if you have a CWP but the NRA sticker on your car has lead us to believe that you have a firearm in your car and your employee agreement says that you will consent to a search. May we search for it?”
Employee “Yes, by all means.”
MouseWorld “We found a gun in your car therefore you are fired”.
Employee “Thank you, I always wanted to retire as a millionaire.

BTW. My wife's employer (a state agency) had to amend their "no guns on the premises" policy after the law took effect.

68 posted on 03/23/2011 9:38:39 AM PDT by bruoz
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This is one of those times when the well meaning don’t see the possible repercussions of their actions. Employers that don’t want firearms on their property will always have the option to cease providing employee parking. It’s already common in large cities, so it’s not nearly the stretch that some think.


78 posted on 03/23/2011 7:39:14 PM PDT by Melas
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