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To: calex59; JDW11235

While neither evolution or creation can be proven scientifically, here’s some food for thought:

One of these statements is true:

1. Matter/Energy do not exist.
2. Matter/Energy are eternal.
3. Matter/Energy spontaneously generated out of nothing.
4. Matter/Energy were created.

Option #1 is falsified by the Scientific Method.
Matter & Energy are observed everyday.

Option #2 is falsified by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics which states (basically) that energy is running down and we will eventually have no usable energy left. At that point we will suffer “heat death”....the sun can not burn forever, it will eventually run out of fuel. If the universe were eternal, this would have happened already.

One more thing on this.... secular science is all-in on the Big Bang theory, admitting that there was a beginning and therefore the universe is not eternal.

Option #3 - Spontaneous generation is falsified by the 1st Law of Thermodynamics (By natural processes, energy cannot be created or destroyed), The Law of the Conservation of Matter (By natural processes, matter cannot be created or destroyed although it can change form) and the Law of Cause and Effect (every effect must have a greater and preexistent cause).

That leaves us with Option #4... that matter and energy were created. This does not violate any natural law.

Can I prove that the universe was created? No. I can’t. However, natural law itself has falsified all the other options..... Naturalists, who believe only in nature and in nothing Supernatural have to ignore natural law to believe what they believe.


66 posted on 03/23/2011 10:06:44 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21

“Naturalists, who believe only in nature and in nothing Supernatural have to ignore natural law to believe what they believe.”

You got that right. Many of the viewpoints atheists express are not held by (dare I say) MOST of scientists anyway. Just like all other areas, only liberals get media attention. The are hundreds of scientists in this state alone who are not atheists, let alone other states and the world. Somehow their faith doesn’t preclude them being scientists, and they’re not an anomaly. Thanks for the thoughtful post.


67 posted on 03/23/2011 1:31:47 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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