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Berlin zoo: Brain problems led to Knut's death
AP ^ | Mar 22, 1:05 PM EDT | Staff

Posted on 03/22/2011 12:21:44 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: shhrubbery!; brytlea; Lando Lincoln

Apples and oranges.

Lando offered an anecdotal observation regarding a mother hen’s treatment of an egg. Did she know that the chick would hatch without a leg? Or did she simply believe something was wrong? We don’t know.

To counter, examples are offered regarding dogs and cats treating their young - even the sick and malformed - with the same love and care that they offer to their healthy young. However, dogs and cats =/= hens with regards to behavior and instincts, so these examples do not counter Lando’s.

Again, the (somewhat snarky) counter-example of the zookeeper who died of a heart attack at age 44 does not counter Lando’s, simply because of his additional proposition that many animals have instincts beyond human comprehension (which I do believe, because the animal kingdom has some freaky stuff).

But I digress.


41 posted on 03/23/2011 7:48:08 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

You actually didn’t digress, you stayed on topic.

I wanted something other than a vague, “She knew” nothing more, nothing less. I see no way she could have known anything from a sealed egg, but was open to suggestion. I have no idea why you entered the conversation, since I don’t think you were there (were you?). But, if you have something to offer other than some suppositions, please do. I’d like a possible mechanism. Go ahead.


42 posted on 03/23/2011 8:36:29 AM PDT by brytlea
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; brytlea

Thanks US007. A mother hen can become very fussy with her eggs and toss them out for a variety of reasons. She will almost always reject a non-viable egg because of gases emitted through the shell. Also, almost always, a mother hen will peck a chick to death should one hatch with deformities.

I just found the rejection of that one egg to be strange. There are indeed mysteries in the animal world.

BTW... we named that brood hen Olga as I recall. LOL!


43 posted on 03/23/2011 9:10:40 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln

Lando, rejecting a *dead* egg because of smell make perfect sense.


44 posted on 03/23/2011 9:21:32 AM PDT by brytlea
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Since it seems that comments on this thread must deal in absolutes (or be peer reviewed), I will have a default qualifier for my remarks as:

Based on my limited experience...

It sure would be boring if no one entered a converstaion around here.

45 posted on 03/23/2011 9:21:51 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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Lando, rejecting a *dead* egg because of smell make perfect sense.

It does to me.

46 posted on 03/23/2011 2:31:41 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln

Oh come on, it’s not that bad. I’ve been called a liberal here on FR because I like to ride the train. Having a skeptical mind is a curse I tell you. :)


47 posted on 03/24/2011 7:33:53 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: Red Badger

This is why you don’t let Charlie Sheen visit the zoo.


48 posted on 03/24/2011 7:37:30 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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He should be in a zoo.............


49 posted on 03/24/2011 7:41:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: brytlea

Skepticism is fine and appropriate. Condescension? Not so much (re: Magic? Psychic?). Just sayin’.

I don’t post much these days anyway. Too many poison darts and pack attacks for me to spend time addressing.

You like trains? :>O


50 posted on 03/24/2011 9:14:14 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln

I apologize, that was rude and over the top.


51 posted on 03/24/2011 10:34:21 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Oh, and yes, I do. But I’m willing to pay my own way. :)


52 posted on 03/24/2011 10:34:58 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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No worries. And, thanks.

I can’t understand why anyone would dislike trains!!


53 posted on 03/24/2011 10:48:54 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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I suppose they don’t really dislike trains, it’s government subsidies, but a lot of people think in soundbites. :) I like trains, therefore, I must be a liberal. (nothing in between). It’s silly of course, but it’s easier than actually thinking. It’s a problem with conservatives, like it is with liberals. We are a diverse group, but some people can only imagine that exactly what they think is absolutely correct. I’ve discovered, on occasion (horror of horrors!) I was wrong. I hate when that happens.


54 posted on 03/24/2011 11:07:07 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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55 posted on 03/25/2011 10:10:29 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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