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Fukushima: Latest NEI Updates, UPDATE AS OF 8:00 P.M. EDT, MONDAY, MARCH 21 [Plants Designed Mag. 8]
NEI ^ | MONDAY, MARCH 21, 2011 | Nuclear Energy Institute

Posted on 03/21/2011 9:53:53 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

NEI has added a new graphic to its website: Emergency Presparedness: Protecting the Public and Environment.

UPDATE AS OF 6:30 P.M. EDT, MONDAY, MARCH 21:

Japan's NHK broadcasting network reported that Tokyo Electric Power Co. confirmed that the March 11 earthquake and tsunami were beyond the Fukushima Daiichi plant's design standards.

TEPCO believes the tsunami that inundated the Fukushima Daiichi site was 14 meters high, the network said. The design basis tsunami for the site was 5.7 meters, and the reactors and backup power sources were located 10 to 13 meters above sea level. The company reported that the maximum earthquake for which the Fukushima Daiichi plants were designed was magnitude 8. The quake that struck March 11 was magnitude 9.

Smoke seen from Fukushima Daiichi reactor 3 on Monday subsided after about two hours. Water pressure and levels at the reactor were unchanged through the episode, as were radiation levels, the company said.

The site was temporarily cleared of workers after smoke rose from at the secondary containment buildings that house reactors 2 and 3. The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said the smoke from reactor 2 caused radiation levels downwind to rise for about three and a half hours.

(Excerpt) Read more at nei.cachefly.net ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: earthquake; fukushima; japan; nei; sendai; tepco; tsunami
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Emergency Planning: Protecting the Public and Environment

1 posted on 03/21/2011 9:53:59 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Thanks for posting this. I’ve been looking for recent updates.


2 posted on 03/21/2011 9:59:26 PM PDT by zot
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To: fight_truth_decay

For want of a nail ...

I think over the next several months a lot of things are going to come out showing if they had just gone a little bit farther to hardening that place when they built it, none of this might have happened. But like the say, hindsight is 20-20.


3 posted on 03/21/2011 10:13:09 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Rover, wanderer, nomad, vagabond, call me what you will.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Thanks for posting. This is the first time I’ve seen actual design parameters like this:
* Tsunami design basis for the site: 5.7 meters.
* Actual tsunami was 14 meters.
* Backup power sources located 10 to 13 meters ASL.

So the designers took the worst-case tsunami and then doubled the height of the backup generators. But the biggest tsunami in all recorded Japanese history swamped even that.


4 posted on 03/21/2011 10:19:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: fight_truth_decay
The company reported that the maximum earthquake for which the Fukushima Daiichi plants were designed was magnitude 8. The quake that struck March 11 was magnitude 9.

A conservative hazard review process has a generous safety factor. It does not appear that such a standard was applied here.

I bet they wish they had!

5 posted on 03/21/2011 10:25:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I wonder about those numbers - wouldn’t the projected tsunami height be stated as above sea level? 5.7 meters above sea level? And then the designers put the backup power 10 to 13 feet above sea level?


6 posted on 03/21/2011 10:28:50 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

It says 10 to 13 meters - not feet.


7 posted on 03/21/2011 10:31:26 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: Carry_Okie

Somewhat like the levee’s in New Orleans (on a micro scale)


8 posted on 03/21/2011 10:32:41 PM PDT by cliff630
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To: Carry_Okie

The plant was designed for M8 and handled M9 just fine. The tsunami swamped the emergency generators needed for cooling after the plant went dark. They needed the additional safety factor on the emergency generator height (and probably the fuel storage height as well). They didn’t design for a 45 ft high wave inundating everything.


9 posted on 03/21/2011 10:38:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Carry_Okie
The company reported that the maximum earthquake for which the Fukushima Daiichi plants were designed was magnitude 8. The quake that struck March 11 was magnitude 9.

A conservative hazard review process has a generous safety factor. It does not appear that such a standard was applied here.

Well, the plants at the site are up to 40 yrs. old. I do not know what expected max earthquake was during design - perhaps 8 did provide considerable margin at the time. It also appears that the plant more or less survived the earthquake - it is the tsunami that took it to a whole new dimension.

10 posted on 03/21/2011 10:41:25 PM PDT by Sunnyvale CA Eng.
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To: cliff630; fight_truth_decay
Somewhat like the levee’s in New Orleans (on a micro scale)

Yup. Moreover, Richter magnitude only measures peak energy, whereas duration matters too. The Alaska quake was a prime example of the latter.

I'm a big fan of nukes, but of the smaller, more serviceable, and portable (!!!) flavor such as the Toshiba 4S proposed for Galena Alaska. That is one cool design, far easier to harden and removable if there is a problem.

11 posted on 03/21/2011 10:42:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: cliff630

It wasn’t the levees that failed in New Orleans, the failure occurred in the flood walls of the Industrial Canal. These are much weaker structures than levees.


12 posted on 03/21/2011 10:48:56 PM PDT by Pelham (Do you know where your Vacationer In Chief is tonight?)
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To: Sunnyvale CA Eng.
It also appears that the plant more or less survived the earthquake - it is the tsunami that took it to a whole new dimension.

Which shows that the safety factor was in the design to that 8.0 magnitude.

I agree that a vital nuclear industry would have long ago replaced this ancient monster. The left is forcing the industry to run its old equipment into the ground, thus assuring an eventual catastrophe.

They have their reasons, and they aren't pretty.

13 posted on 03/21/2011 10:49:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
So the designers took the worst-case tsunami and then doubled the height of the backup generators. But the biggest tsunami in all recorded Japanese history swamped even that.

Needs to be repeated over and over and over again. Fukushima Daiichi was just another destroyed industrial site from the tsunami. 100s of billions of dollars of damage to Japan was the result of the tsunami. Thousands of deaths were the result of the tsunami. No radiation deaths have resulted from the tsunami.
14 posted on 03/21/2011 10:49:23 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: Carry_Okie

It survived the earthquake.

In addition the intensity at the plant was considerably less than at the epicenter 80 or so miles away.


15 posted on 03/21/2011 10:57:32 PM PDT by DB
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Apparently the electrical switching equipment was in the ...

- Basement -

And that flooded...

That alone seems like a bad design choice for a nuclear power plant on the coast.


16 posted on 03/21/2011 11:01:22 PM PDT by DB
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To: DB
It survived the earthquake.

Well duh, but not a seismic wave with the consequent magnitude. I was talking about the entire array of hazards associated with a particular magnitude quake, including marine seismic waves, which is what any design hazard review for an earthquake would encompass.

And for twenty points, what is the difference between a "tidal wave" and a "tsunami"?

Answer: there isn't one. When American scientists agreed that what should have been called "seismic waves" were not "tidal waves" they decided that since the Japanese were so advanced in such matters that they adopted the Japanese term "tsunami" without consulting said experts as to what the term meant. And what do you know but the literal translation of the Japanese word "tsunami" means, "tidal wave," or at least that is what we learned in our oceanography classes. They do share very similar long wave behavior properties however.

17 posted on 03/21/2011 11:27:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

It is true, that many reactors (and not just here) are operating well past their design lifetimes. Among other things, many materials swell and become brittle from neutron bombardment. HOPEFULLY, this is managed well!


18 posted on 03/21/2011 11:32:12 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
HOPEFULLY, this is managed well!

Ever heard of Murphy?

19 posted on 03/21/2011 11:42:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: PA Engineer
Needs to be repeated over and over and over again. Fukushima Daiichi was just another destroyed industrial site from the tsunami. 100s of billions of dollars of damage to Japan was the result of the tsunami. Thousands of deaths were the result of the tsunami. No radiation deaths have resulted from the tsunami.

Exactly!

20 posted on 03/21/2011 11:53:42 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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