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Stupid Presidents: How America Blew-Up The Middle East
Personal Liberty Digest ^ | 3/16/2011 | John Myers

Posted on 03/20/2011 3:12:14 PM PDT by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

“Why has every President since Lyndon Johnson been so utterly stupid when it comes to the Middle East?”

It’s not since Johnson. It’s since Roosevelt... and before that, the US was isolationist, so it had no Mideast policy. In short, it’s just the natural result of government. Government can’t do anything right.


21 posted on 03/20/2011 3:40:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Free Vulcan
And, he was practically out of office by this point. I doubt they could put anything together in a month.

Agreed. But GHW Bush not taking care of business was criminal.

22 posted on 03/20/2011 3:45:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: IbJensen
The Middle east has made a mess out of itself for at least two millenniums. It did so long before there were Presidents in the US.
23 posted on 03/20/2011 3:45:26 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: IbJensen

Reagan and Bush I both had to deal with mid-east through the prism of the Cold War. This limited their actions: piss off an Arab regime too much and they could go pro-Soviet. Also, Reagan needed Saudi Arabia’s cooperation in lowering oil prices to “starve” the Soviet empire into defeat. The Saudis got a quid pro quo for that.

Another key priority for the US was avoiding another all-out Arab / Isreali war. All the presidents you cite have succeeded in that, so far.

Outside of Isreal, most people in the mid-east wish we were dead. We are enemies, not just of arab governments, but of the arab people. Short of waging genocide against them, there’s not much we can do except play for time, and hope they change changes their minds. It really is that simple and that depressing.


24 posted on 03/20/2011 3:48:25 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: IbJensen

This author is retarded.

If one accepts the left/Islam’s reason for Middle East dysfunction [Israel’s existence], then the source of the problem is the British.

Or the Romans. Depends on how far you want to go back.

Regardless, even Ike f*cked it up by stopping Brit/French ops in the Suez.


25 posted on 03/20/2011 3:53:31 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: IbJensen

Also, your grades are way, way too low. An “F” - seriously? You think what’s happening now is “Failure?” No - an “F” in the mid-east would be the US, USSR, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, and Isreal ALL launching nukes at each other.

That’s what REAL failure in the mid-east looks like.


26 posted on 03/20/2011 3:54:51 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: j-damn

If he hadn’t, the Arab states would’ve gone pro-Soviet. Even more than they did.


27 posted on 03/20/2011 3:56:09 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: I Shall Endure

Outside of Isreal, most people in the mid-east wish we were dead. We are enemies, not just of arab governments, but of the arab people. Short of waging genocide against them, there’s not much we can do except play for time, and hope they change changes their minds. It really is that simple and that depressing.

One thing that we can do is get out of their business and let them screw up their own sandbox. And we can become defense conscious in a major way with great solid borders. We can also send the immigrants home..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2691384/posts


28 posted on 03/20/2011 3:57:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Totalitarian Fascism is here, now.)
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To: IbJensen

If we blew up the Middle East, why is it still there?


29 posted on 03/20/2011 3:57:45 PM PDT by RichInOC ("In the name of Allah, The Inexorable, The Irresistible...")
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To: IbJensen
Why has every President since Lyndon Johnson been so utterly stupid when it comes to the Middle East?

I'm guessing that all of them were smarter than the author of this piece.

30 posted on 03/20/2011 3:59:02 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

It was not untrue.


31 posted on 03/20/2011 4:00:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: IbJensen

Don’t ask don’t tell begot Private First Class Bradley Manning who begot wikileaks which toppled the house of cards that is called American Middle East policy.

Carter demonstrated that we are toothless buffoons.

Obama is beyond description.


32 posted on 03/20/2011 4:01:49 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Sulzberger Family Motto: Trois generations d'imbeciles, assez)
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To: Chickensoup

Unfortunately, the world needs their damn oil. Even if the US “drills here and drills now,” oil is fungible; events in the mid-east will matter hugely to Europe, Japan, and China. But yeah...if we can find massive new reserves here and drive the price of oil down, we’ll be better off.


33 posted on 03/20/2011 4:02:19 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: freekitty

It was not not untrue...


34 posted on 03/20/2011 4:04:53 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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To: I Shall Endure

There is plenty of oil in the Gulf and in Alsaka. I would rather go without while we get oil drilling up to snuff and plaster the country with reactors. Screw em.


35 posted on 03/20/2011 4:08:25 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Totalitarian Fascism is here, now.)
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To: IbJensen
Reagan also looses points for not bringing justice to Moammar Gadhafi after his Libyan agents blew-up Pan Am flight 103 killing all 259 on board and another 11 on the ground in December 1988.

Maybe the fact that by the time Qaddafi had been identified as the culprit, Presiddent Reagan was long gone, has something to do with this.

Sorry, but homemade history just doesn't get it..

36 posted on 03/20/2011 4:09:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Reagan also looses points for not bringing justice to Moammar Gadhafi after his Libyan agents blew-up Pan Am flight 103 killing all 259 on board and another 11 on the ground in December 1988.

Maybe the fact that by the time Qaddafi had been identified as the culprit, President Reagan was long gone, has something to do with this.

Sorry, but homemade history just doesn't get it..

37 posted on 03/20/2011 4:09:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: IbJensen

Well said.


38 posted on 03/20/2011 4:11:54 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: IbJensen

Well said.


39 posted on 03/20/2011 4:12:01 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Chickensoup

Even if we went without, the rest of the world wouldn’t; their needs would still affect energy prices in the US - that’s what it means to say oil is fungible. If we lower US demand, then yes, the price goes down. But using our own doesn’t change the global price; it just helps our balance of payments.


40 posted on 03/20/2011 4:14:50 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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