I have been living in South Forsyth County for the past 9 years. We have seen a greater influx of Asian and some residents from India.
Foreclosures helping change color of some suburbs
(Title doesn’t make sense when you read the story)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41810267/ns/us_news-life/
Three years ago, Lamar Grace left Detroit for the suburb of Southfield. He got a good deal - a 3,000-square-foot colonial that once was worth $220,000. In foreclosure, he paid $109,000.
The neighbors were not pleased.
“They don’t want to live next door to ghetto folks,” he says.
That his neighbors are black, like Grace, is immaterial. Many in the black middle class moved out of Detroit and settled in the northern suburbs years ago; now, due to foreclosures, it is easy to buy or rent houses on the cheap here. The result has been a new, poorer wave of arrivals from the city, and growing tensions between established residents and the newcomers.
“My six-figure blacks are very concerned about multiple-family, economically depressed people moving into rental homes and apartments, bringing in their bad behaviors.” says Southfield Police Chief Joseph Thomas, who is himself black.
The stats aren't good. Southfield is a black suburb here and over 80% D. Down in the Atlanta area, minority rates correlate with the D strength.
It's the same story. Liberals (white or black) wreck a city, move out, and bring the liberalism with them.
This is already the reality of liberal CA. Suburbs there are liberal too in many cases.
On a similar note, I remember back in the 70s when Sacramento was white and conservative. (Not to bash non-white Freepers, which is a sad possible side-effect of these topics. This is about liberty, responsibility and conservatism, not skin color, foods you like, or clothes you wear.)
Anyway, Sacramento used to be very white and very conservative. Sometime recently, the smarter poor people in the San Francisco/Oakland bay area, realized that it was a horrible place to raise your children and moved to the city of Sacramento and places like Elk Grove and Natomas.
At the same time, and I don’t think because of, there was a “white flight” of upper middle class Sacramentans out of the city proper and outlying areas, way out to El Dorado Hills, Folsom, Roseville, Rocklin and Lincoln, & etc.
Sacramento proper is now liberal and sinking fast under that liberalism, with all the spending, budget problems, crime, gangs and decay associated with the spread of lower class liberalism.
Sad. When it came time for me to return to Sacramento after 12 years in San Francisco & Oakland working on the bay bridges, I just couldn’t do it, so I hopped over to the small cowtown of Yuba City. It is as conservative as Sacramento used to be.
I am writing this before reading the article before I lose my train of thought, so after I read it, maybe this is not on topic. I’ll see. Anyway, this seemed to be in the same vein, so I apologize for any high-jacking I caused in advance of reading the article...
OK, after reading the article I will just say this. A big part of my feeling that the American experiment in republican freedom is winding down, is the changing overall US demographics. We have imported a massive Hispanic underclass which, along with other immigrants, are bringing in their acceptance of socialism. I think this is our undoing and I think that undoing is inevitable.
America will be a non-white nation. This is inevitable because the birth rates among immigrants is much higher than native whites. You know, once upon a time I would have said “non-white immigrants” but I am given to believe that today, the terms are interchangeable. I mean, what percentage of immigrants is European white. I am guessing it is almost none. Maybe some from the former eastern block of countries.
And I would always call hispanics “white” but that doesn’t seem to be fully accurate anymore. Mexico is a very racist nation and the Spaniard whites are given privileges while the more Indian Mexicans are usually the poor people. So the flood of Mexican immigrants into the USA are generally the most Indian in composition, and the least Spaniard.
At least this is my impression. So I used to say Hispanics were whites, but now, I don’t think so. Also, when you speak in political terms, there is a distinction between Hispanic whites and non-Hispanic whites that is acting to Balkanize us politically.
Finally, this entire discussion makes me want to puke. I grew up American and embraced everyone of every color and background. I was generally colorblind. Teddy Kennedy got his immigration bill passed and intentionally de-whited the USA. Frankly, I didn’t notice or care given that I was color blind and only cared that we were moral and free and followed the constitution and the ideas of the Founders and stayed America and stayed us and strong.
But as we de-whited be also more liberalized. I can’t say the de-whiting caused the liberalizing, as the biggest push came from elitist whites. But I will say that the de-whiting provided a huge political new group to exploit by the elitist whites in their push for full blown socialism.
Then Bill Clinton came along and pushed race down my throat publicly on TV 24/7, and it has been impossible for me to not see issues of race everywhere all the time. I count the numbers of people on TV shows and commercials to show that there is one of every represented group, etc. I am no longer color-blind. Bill Clinton made me this way.
All discussion of this makes me sick to my stomach because I would rather go back to being color-blind and just see an ascendant America that is making its people more free, more prosperous, and less oppressed. But I don’t. And that makes me deeply unhappy.
I am little baffled by some on this thread who think middle class status = Republican voter. You don’t see that among Jews who voted 57% for Obama.
I don’t expect any difference from middle class blacks, Hispanics or Asians.
I like the hopefulness but it is misplaced.
White flight is not the answer. The blacks who move to the suburbs are typically gainfully employed with intact familes. (key word: TYPICALLY)
Back in the 50’s and 60’s, in our area when the black doctor, lawyer or businessman (the folks who could afford it) moved into a white neighborhood, for sale signs sprouted like weeds. Instead of waiting to see what kind of neighbors the newcomers would be, whites fled.
Investors jumped on the opportunity to deal with “motivated” sellers, and prices fell. That created more rental properties, occupied by folks with less of a stake in the neighborhood. The lower prices also allowed those on a lower socio-economic level to buy in, bringing more disparity.
The lesson: don’t run. Expect the same behavior of your new neighbors as you did of your old ones, and treat them the same as you did the old ones.