[truthguy]

Far from receiving affirmative action from California universities, Asian students are discriminated against, because they are not a designated minority. And they are overrepresented in California universities because a) they are bright; b) they are ambitious and eager to succeed; and c) their families really push them.

Part of what you say is true, but how can it be that so many of these kids cannot speak English? I work in Silicon Valley and know many kids (of all races) that went through the UC system. Many of the Asians cannot speak English very well. They cannot write well either. They could NEVER have passed the English Courses I took when I was in college some 30 years ago. So something is quite odd here.

Another thing that angers many whites is that many Asians are very recent immigrants and they have not paid much in the way of taxes to support the public universities that they attend. It's like not having paid your dues but are getting the advantage of an education and university system that you didn't help to build.

[James C. Bennett]

Foreign (International) students have to pay tuition fees that’s more that what in-state students have to pay, unless they’ve received financial scholarships. Universities specifically break down the fee structure based on the above categorisation.

[Cicero]

Well, FWIW, I had several Asian students as PhD candidates in NYC, fresh from mainland China, Taiwan, and South Korea. Yes, they had some problems with writing in English, but actually so do many of our American students, who were miseducated in the public school system.

They were all different as individuals, of course, but they did very well, worked hard, and had no more problems with English than American students—just different problems, like how and when to use the definite article.

And they all came in with high SAT and GRE scores.

[momtothree]

“... are very recent immigrants and they have not paid much in the way of taxes...”

Would they also not support illegals paying in state tuition? Perhaps not all minorities are equal.

[x]

Many of the Asians cannot speak English very well.

Asian-Americans or Asian-Asians?

[x]

Many of the Asians cannot speak English very well.

Asian-Americans or Asian-Asians?

I mean -- born here or born there?

[righttackle44]

Part of what you say is true, but how can it be that so many of these kids cannot speak English? . . . They could NEVER have passed the English Courses I took when I was in college some 30 years ago. So something is quite odd here.

The immigrant kids can't speak English. They could NEVER have passed the English courses you took 30 years ago?

I'm not certain Native-born Americans can pass the English courses of 30 years ago. Or this year's English courses.

Many Americans--many, I bet who live and work in Silicon Valley--can't even get the simple English past tense correct. That simply means saying "I saw" instead of "I seen." Every day and evening, I hear news anchors and reporters, especially when speaking during happy talk, say "I seen." Police officers, business owners, engineers, barbecue restaurant dishwashers, and people right here on FR, couldn't pass English classes of 30 years ago.

[dennisw]

Another thing that angers many whites is that many Asians are very recent immigrants and they have not paid much in the way of taxes to support the public universities that they attend. It's like not having paid your dues but are getting the advantage of an education and university system that you didn't help to build.

I have posted this many times. What right do you have to parachute in here and go to an American high school thus qualifying for in cheaper state tuition. Plus if you are smart getting admitted rather than someone whose family has been paying taxes her for 100-200 years, served in our military and fought in our wars. Lots of these fresh off the boat "Asians" think white students are lazy fools and in some cases they are correct