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To: SunkenCiv; P-Marlowe

I agree with Kucinich. The president doesn’t have the authority to declare war or to initiate lower level offensive military actions (marque and reprisal).

He needs congressional authorization for either. The truth remains that Libya has not attacked us in any form.

I did not support the humanitarian premise for Bosnia/Kosovo, in which Serbs were villified and then attacked. Nor do I support a humanitarian premise for intervening in a civil war.

A humanitarian premise for the Holocaust would have passed muster because the public evidence of murder of a race of people was evident by public pronouncements and by events such as Kristalnacht. However, there were military reasons to have confronted Germany which had violated every military restriction placed on them by Versailles.


52 posted on 03/19/2011 7:38:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: xzins; SunkenCiv
A humanitarian premise for the Holocaust would have passed muster because the public evidence of murder of a race of people was evident by public pronouncements and by events such as Kristalnacht. However, there were military reasons to have confronted Germany which had violated every military restriction placed on them by Versailles.

We didnt need a humanitarian reason to fight Germany in 1939. Nobody did. Everyone was just too timid to reinstate hostilities and Hitler used that timidity to basically take over most of Europe without firing a single shot (if you don't count the thousands of political assassinations). Germany had violated the terms of the peace treaty which was still in effect. 

When one side or the other violates the terms of a peace treaty, the peace is ended and any prior declaration of war would remain in effect. This is why our second entry into Iraq was perfectly legal. Hussein had violated the terms of the 1990 cease fire, so the Allies were free to reinstate hostilities. Unfortunately only Bush and Blair had the balls to enforce it.

We have never authorized military action in Libya and we have no compelling strategic interest in getting involved. For all we know, the rebels are worse than Khadaffi ever dreamed of being.

53 posted on 03/19/2011 8:04:25 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins

“He needs congressional authorization for either. The truth remains that Libya has not attacked us in any form.”

Neither did North Korea in the 50’s.


60 posted on 03/19/2011 4:44:57 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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