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To: pissant
So when you and your wife decide to have children or not to have children, that’s God’s choice?

Of course it is. If he didn't create the child there would be no child.

"All men are created." This is self-evidently true.

Since when did you believe in Pre-destination?

What's that got to do with anything?

GOd gave man free will.

He sure did. But that isn't a license to butcher a child.

THere is fat chance that God is choosing that a rapist rape.

There's fat chance that God chooses that men commit any heinous act. But He triumphs nonetheless. One of His specialties is in bringing good out of what was meant for evil.

315 posted on 03/17/2011 1:23:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Of course it is. If he didn't create the child there would be no child.

He created the universe as well. That does not mean God is busy creating every grain of sand. What He set in motion takes care of itself. Do you think He plans for this bank along the shore to cave in on Feb 16th and that horse to eat a particular patch of grass on Oct 4th? Of course not. You have the distinct ability to not pro-create. Is that God's "choice" too? Of course life is miraculous and part of his creation. As is the planet, grass and sand. But He is not a micro-manager.

What's that (pre-destination) got to do with anything?

You said it was God's "choice" whether Mr and Mrs EV were going to have children. That simply is not so. God's miracle has made life possible. He is not demanding all humans procreate. He has given us free will.

He sure did. But that isn't a license to butcher a child.

Nor is it a license for you to tell ANYONE they must procreate with an agent of evil.

318 posted on 03/17/2011 1:37:57 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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