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Allen West to birthers: focus on Obama policies instead
Palm Beach Post ^ | February 23rd, 2011 | by George Bennett

Posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

West speaks to a crowd of about 400 at Tuesday night's town hall meeting in Jupiter.

JUPITER — Toward the end of a 90-minute audience Q&A session at Tuesday night’s town hall meeting, U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation, was asked by former Indian Trail Improvement District board member Christopher Karch whether President Obama is “legally there or not.”

“Who is going to tell us who this man is? Is he legally there or not?” said Karch. “What are we going to do to ensure that, if he isn’t legally there, it doesn’t happen again?”

Said West: “I will tell you this: That is the dog chasing its tail. The most important thing is, it’s the policies. That’s what we have to be standing on.”

The crowd of about 400 applauded, but Karch wasn’t satisfied.

“But if he’s not, it’s treason,” Karch said.

Said West: “You will waste more time worrying yourself to death about that instead of making sure that you expand the majority in the House of Representatives, you win back the U.S. Senate so that you can stand against the policies that are emanating out of the White House…

“What is your objective? Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values. If you spend your time worrying about someone’s citizenship, you will never get to that objective.”

West didn’t offer his own opinion on Obama’s citizenship during the public forum. So PostOnPolitics asked him after the meeting.

“He is a citizen. He’s the president. I mean, that’s all I know. I am concerned about his policies,” West said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; west
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To: EternalVigilance

So was the Japanese child. Not a hostile invader.


321 posted on 03/17/2011 1:41:44 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: EternalVigilance

Not at all. He intervenes when He sees fit. And it isn’t to encourage rapists to violate innocent women.


322 posted on 03/17/2011 1:43:02 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
Nor is it a license for you to tell ANYONE they must procreate with an agent of evil.

So, if this child in question is an evil "spawn," as you claim, is that child's child also such?

It only makes sense using your "logic." Surely they're worthy of your violent wrath as well, right?

323 posted on 03/17/2011 1:43:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are so full of crap on this, it’s hard to keep up.


324 posted on 03/17/2011 1:44:03 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
So was the Japanese child. Not a hostile invader.

Again, your misunderstanding of just war, your conflation of it with the intentional targeting of a completely innocent child in the womb for destruction, is noted.

325 posted on 03/17/2011 1:46:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: pissant
You are so full of crap on this, it’s hard to keep up.

It's "crap" to understand that "ALL men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights," and that the purpose of government is to secure those rights? I'm sure the founders of this free republic would be shocked to hear it, since it was their first assertion of the moral basis for our independence and existence as a separate and free nation.

326 posted on 03/17/2011 1:50:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Again, you are saying its God’s demand that NO child be killed in the womb, yet you make justification for the Japanese, because of the injustice of their fathers. Yet no justification for any other, despite the injustice of their fathers.

It’s all or nuttin, honey. That’s the silly game you play.


327 posted on 03/17/2011 1:50:59 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

I know it pains you that I’m not chasing your silly red herring arguments, but you’re just going to have to live with it.

Is the grandchild of the rapist still “spawn,” and worthy of your violent retribution? Where’s your cut off point on punishing the innocent “spawn” of violent criminals? How many generations?


328 posted on 03/17/2011 1:53:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: pissant

I’ll come back tomorrow some time to see your response.


329 posted on 03/17/2011 2:03:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance

The child isn’t being given retribution for the sins of his father, you dork. He is the unfortunate victim of circumstances. Those circumstances being that EV, Obama and Ted Bundy don’t get to choose the mothers of their offspring forcibly. They do not get to violate the rights of another citizen so that they create a third citizen. That FACT trumps all others in this case. Unfortunate, yes. But caused wholly and solely by the rapist. The blood is on his hands. And you want to chastise the poor rape victim for not being willing to carry your spawn.


330 posted on 03/17/2011 2:05:05 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
The child isn’t being given retribution for the sins of his father

Of course he is. He's being brutally murdered, deprived of his unalienable right to life, simply because of a criminal act committed by another person, his father. No other reason.

The blood is on his hands.

Only if he kills the child. Otherwise he's a rapist, one of the most vile, despicable creatures there is.

Making the mother into a murderer does absolutely nothing to mitigate that heinous act whatsoever.

Two wrongs do not make a right. Never have, never will. Didn't your parents teach you that? That's like parenting 101.

331 posted on 03/17/2011 2:14:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance
two wrongs don't make a right. Never have, never will.

Tell that to the Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden, Berlin, and Baghdad dead.

332 posted on 03/17/2011 2:16:59 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

You’re the one trying to have it both ways.

You’re obviously saying it was fine to target children in the those cities for destruction, because of the sins of their fathers.

Is that included in your understanding of “just war”?


333 posted on 03/17/2011 2:24:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: pissant

I have to go to bed. See ya.


334 posted on 03/17/2011 2:26:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance

No. I see it one way. A violent violation of a country’s security and sovereignty will inevitably lead to dead innocents in the ensuing just war. Just as the rejection of EV’s, Obama’s, or Charlie Manson’s violent violation of another citizen’s security and sovereignty will have bad repercussions in a woman’s refusal to carry your spawn.


335 posted on 03/17/2011 2:30:09 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: EternalVigilance

hasta la pasta


336 posted on 03/17/2011 2:30:38 AM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: EternalVigilance

Mr. West it is not a whether the imposter is a citizen, no, its the fact that he is not a Natural Born Citizen, like, presumably, yourself. How about the fact, Mr. West, the imposter in the white house is using a fraudulent SSN. What would happpen to you or I, if we committed such an act?


337 posted on 03/17/2011 2:32:24 AM PDT by rambo316 (Remember SSN CT 042-68-4425)
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To: pissant

The “your spawn” bit is really low even for you.


338 posted on 03/17/2011 2:34:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: Raider Sam
"All it does is say how Congress will appoint a new President if the current doesnt qualify. It does not mention who is responsible and it does not require Congress to ensure eligibility."

Wrong.

Explained Here:

Congress is Responsible For the Eligibility Fiasco

Best way to deal with this can be done NOW and it is explained here:

Usurper Detection Legislation Should Be Passed within Each State

339 posted on 03/17/2011 5:49:56 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Raider Sam
"There is nothing in the Constitution that allows you to remove the President if he hasnt been proven ineligible"

The burden of proof is placed upon the one seeking the office of President. From section three of the Twentieth amendment:

"or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify"

The "failure to qualify" is an action being attempted by the "President elect". If this is not accomplished, Congress is instructed to name a replacement.

Also, if Congress has not done it's job, we still do not have a legal President, thus a usurpation. Usurpers can just be arrested.

340 posted on 03/17/2011 6:00:44 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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