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To: PROCON

Does the SCOTUS have original jurisdiction?


7 posted on 03/15/2011 5:15:20 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: LukeL

‘Does the SCOTUS have original jurisdiction?’

Does not matter since the case is already in multiple appellate Courts.


22 posted on 03/15/2011 5:26:53 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: LukeL
Does the SCOTUS have original jurisdiction?

IMHO it would, it's in multiple state courts. I think there could be a case for concurrent jurisdiction, but that gets way beyond my knowledge.

U.S. Constitution. Art.III

28 USC 485
35 posted on 03/15/2011 5:41:01 PM PDT by BJClinton ("Worse" technically is "change".)
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To: LukeL
Does the SCOTUS have original jurisdiction?

My understanding is that the Chief Justice of SCOTUS is the chief administrator of the Federal Court system and can take any case once it is in the Federal Court system. Bush V Gore 2000.

57 posted on 03/15/2011 6:05:13 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: LukeL; P-Marlowe

Having original jurisdiction does not mean that Scotus MUST take up a case; it means they CAN take up a case.

They might just want the lower courts to do all the leg work on it before they get hold of it.

Is ObamaCare constitutional?

Heck, I don’t think car seat requirements for children is constitutional, so you know I don’t think forcing me to buy insurance is constitutional.

I think the issue at the Scotus will end up being whether or not the required purchase part is severable with the remainder being intact EVEN in the case when Congress doesn’t specifically say so.

IOW, are constitutional parts still active if unconstitutional parts are excised?

That would kill the funding of ObamaCare, but some of the straphanger provisions would last: 26 year old on parents’ care provision, pre-existing condition provision, and the unrelated to healthcare provisions. jmho


139 posted on 03/16/2011 5:15:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: LukeL
Does the SCOTUS have original jurisdiction?

Yes

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.

159 posted on 03/16/2011 3:50:46 PM PDT by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about lying politicians.)
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To: LukeL

Literally they don’t have either original or appellate jurisdiction if the matter is not under the Federal Constitution.

But as they have usurped to themselves the ability to define what is and is not under the Constitution. Their original and appellate jurisdiction is absolutely endless.


Yes this is laughable upon simple examination in respect to the arrogant claim that we live under a Constitution. The truth is we do not live under a Constitution of any kind, we live under 9 hand picked Oligarchs in black robes.

There are numerous cases in which theses Oligarchs demonstrate and redistribute this fact. Roe V. Wade being among the most commonly sited, but by no means the first nor the last.


The real problem roots not from the Federal court itself but from our assumptions about its authority.

You see a true Constitutional system is designed with checks and balances to enforce its limits, precisely because its authors expected its members to try and assume boundless power.

Therefore the the game was not to trust them not to do otherwise, but to keep them from practically achieving the same boundless power. The only possible way to do that is by creating and empowering other forces to challenge them and deny them that arbitrary authority.

It is common in school to just speak of the 3 branches, but the 3 branches are really just 3 aspects of the same goverment, worse still by original design 2 of the branches was to be effectually appointed and/or approved by 1 of them congress.

The presidency was expected to be chosen by congress(Nobody thought that most presidents would win more then 50% of the collage). The court was hand picked by the same president and approved by the Senate.


167 posted on 03/16/2011 6:24:19 PM PDT by Monorprise
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