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Blacks and Republicans (Thomas Sowell)
Creators Syndicate ^ | March 15, 2011 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 03/15/2011 11:09:17 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo
"...It would be impossible for the Democrats to deny the facts..."

Probably the only thing I have ever disagreed with from The Brilliant Gift from God, Thomas Sowell. ... Of course the democraps can deny facts- they do it all the time.

21 posted on 03/15/2011 11:45:54 AM PDT by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
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To: pnh102

so true! I live in a far more ‘diverse’ neighborhood than my preachy liberal associates.


22 posted on 03/15/2011 12:00:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: MrB
They don’t, and won’t, hear of it.

Are you serious?

Are you serious? :-)

23 posted on 03/15/2011 12:00:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Mr. K

Yes they do. They’re so used to denying facts they do it when they don’t have to.


24 posted on 03/15/2011 12:02:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: pnh102

A few years ago some guy from Haiti tried to buy a piece of land here on the airpark I live on.
MAN you should have seen the reaction from the liberal engineers here from Pratt and Witney.
Wooooo.
Needless to say Jean Babtist is not here.


25 posted on 03/15/2011 12:11:21 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: jazusamo

“That is NOT a serious question!”


26 posted on 03/15/2011 12:16:12 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: pnh102
The dirty little secret of whitey liberals... few can stomach the idea of living in the company of minorities.
What, they don't want to live around hetrosexuals?
27 posted on 03/15/2011 12:31:07 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: jazusamo

The silence of the Republicans is complicit with the lies of the Democrats.


28 posted on 03/15/2011 12:58:43 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: jazusamo

“But none of this matters so long as Republicans who want the black vote think they have to devise earmarked benefits for blacks, instead of explaining how Republicans’ general principles, applied to all Americans, can do more for blacks than the Democrats’ welfare state approach.”

Dropping knowledge on the GOP, but they won’t listen.


29 posted on 03/15/2011 1:18:40 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: jurroppi1
what is the corollary to this? Is there a specific reason blacks are moving out or can’t afford these neighborhoods other than liberal policy that doesn’t seem to affect other races so much? Is there racism inherent that supposedly keeps blacks out?
Blacks are being forced out of San Francisco, and out of other communities on the San Francisco peninsula, by high housing prices.

At one time, housing prices in San Francisco were much like housing prices elsewhere in the country. But the building restrictions— and outright bans— resulting from the political crusades of environmentalist zealots sent housing prices skyrocketing in San Francisco, San Jose and most of the communities in between. Housing prices in these communities soared to about three times the national average.


30 posted on 03/15/2011 1:19:33 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: jazusamo

So, when are the democrats going to declare San Francisco as racist?

Alternately, they could declare high home prices as racist.


31 posted on 03/15/2011 1:21:13 PM PDT by adorno
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To: jurroppi1

I hear you. If there’s an argument for racism here, of deliberately excluding blacks, I missed it.


32 posted on 03/15/2011 1:30:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

And? How does that show intent to exclude?


33 posted on 03/15/2011 1:33:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: from occupied ga
instead of explaining how Republicans' general principles, applied to all Americans, can do more for blacks than the Democrats' welfare state approach.
One of the few times I have to disagree with Dr. Sowell. Most blacks are not interested in hearing how the rising tide lifts all boats. They have a bone deep sense of entitlement and resentment that can never be satisfied, but only briefly appeased by robbing whites via taxes and squandering the plunder in the form of largesse that benefits only blacks. It has been conditioned into them since birth. They're not going to listen to reason.
That is certainly what Sharpton, Jackson, et. al. are selling. And I take it as a given that the majority of blacks are only too ready to buy it.
There is however a fallacy in a critique that says that Republicans can never get a majority of the black vote, so they shouldn't try at all. The fallacy is that if that appeal is made by a Republican selling Republican rather than RINO policies, it need not be 100%, or even 50%, effective to have powerful electoral consequences. Once the Democrats have committed to policies which promote racial division, they become beholden to the 90% black vote they count on, and cannot afford to only get 2/3 or even 3/4 of it.

I take Sowell to mean that Republicans should be able to sell the benefits of their policies to blacks enough to cut the Democrats' margin of victory among blacks enough to put them in a pickle overall. I would go further and say that you could even do pretty well without getting a substantial increase in your percentage, if you only succeeded in cutting down black turnout. If the black turnout is low, let the Democrats win 90% of the black vote, and the Republican still is in a good position. Blacks are cynical about Republicans, and they can easily be cynical enough about politics to decide not to bother voting. It would undoubtedly take time for that to grow into positive voting support for the Republicans. Ya gotta start somewhere . . .


34 posted on 03/15/2011 1:44:31 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: from occupied ga
One of the few times I have to disagree with Dr. Sowell. Most blacks are not interested in hearing how the rising tide lifts all boats. They have a bone deep sense of entitlement and resentment that can never be satisfied, but only briefly appeased by robbing whites via taxes and squandering the plunder in the form of largess that benefits only blacks. It has been conditioned into them since birth. They're not going to listen to reason.

Well stated - and worth repeating.

There is a reason blacks vote for liberal Democrats in overwhelming numbers, election after election, despite the grievous harm Democrat policies and programs have done to the black family, the black community and the self respect of black Americans. That sense of resentment coupled with an equal sense of entitlement (eagerly fueled by Democrat politicians) is probably at the core of this otherwise puzzling opposition to voting for Republicans that would actually empower black people, unlike the Democrats who just use and abuse them, year in and year out while black voters always come back for more, believing the lies and seeking the rewards the liberal politicians always promise but rarely even try to deliver. Why should they? They already have the black vote. Just saying the right buzz words to black audiences is good enough to get the liberal Democrat elected.

35 posted on 03/15/2011 1:44:51 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: RoadTest

“The silence of the Republicans is complicit with the lies of the Democrats.”

In a nutshell.

Even if conservatives *knew* for a fact that conservatism was destined to lose, conservatives would still be morally obligated to fight with all their strength, right down to the last man.


36 posted on 03/15/2011 2:27:41 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: MrB
white libs will do all they can to avoid living around “diverse cultures”.

Yes, but have no fear, they have no problem with the "common folk" living in areas that look more like Tijuana than Main St USA.

37 posted on 03/15/2011 2:44:53 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: jurroppi1

“Is there a specific reason blacks are moving out or can’t afford these neighborhoods other than liberal policy that doesn’t seem to affect other races so much?”

No. It was liberal policy that kept them in the slums of the Fillmore, that destroyed the black family, that killed appalling numbers of black babies, and that derailed the trend begun in the fifties of upward mobility for blacks. (Dr. Sowell explains all those things brilliantly.)

Further, it is a fact that sodomites tend to have more disposable income than married couples, which also contributed to the inflation of property values in Sodom on the Bay.

“I’m curious about Sowell’s reasoning, because it seems as though there are some underpinnings here that aren’t being fleshed out properly.”

Sowell doesn’t kowtow to liberal shibolleths.


38 posted on 03/15/2011 3:12:42 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Jim Scott

“There is a reason blacks vote for liberal Democrats in overwhelming numbers”

Well, since some blacks want to blame everything on slavery, how about this: it is a carryover from the days of reconstruction when crooked carpetbaggers used to tell the freedmen that Republicans were the “publicans” of the New Testament.


39 posted on 03/15/2011 4:11:17 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Right, I get that Sowell doesn’t kowtow to liberal shibboleths (which is why I appreciate him so much). It seems as though he is nudging at something just below the surface here though and that is exactly why it bothered me.

If there is a disparity in income (perceived or real) - all other things being equal, it must come from somewhere. If blacks are underrepresented, then there is a reason other than just high prices. Otherwise affluent blacks (there must be a few somewhere in CA) would have no trouble affording the same costs as a white person or other race. Unless there is a massive functional conspiracy other than that mentioned (because the premise Sowell posits just doesn’t explain it otherwise).


40 posted on 03/15/2011 5:57:44 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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