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1 posted on 03/15/2011 5:48:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Like labor leadership was ever going to urge their membership to vote Republican. Give us a break.


2 posted on 03/15/2011 5:50:00 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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CBS/New York Times poll found that 56 percent of those surveyed opposed reducing pay or benefits of public employees in order to balance state budgets, and 60 percent opposed weakening the bargaining rights of public employees.


I find this very hard to believe. Especially in cases where public employees have better pay/benefits than the majority of taxpayers.


3 posted on 03/15/2011 5:51:20 AM PDT by rbg81
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"Republicans have done organized labor a great favor by putting the movement back in (the) labor movement, creating a level of passion and activism for workers' rights that hasn't been seen in generations,"

Sorry, not buying it. People who are winning don't demand to examine payrolls and customer lists for future intimidation.
4 posted on 03/15/2011 5:52:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Kaslin

voters


6 posted on 03/15/2011 5:54:31 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (For government to give anyone a benefit they must first take it from someone else.)
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To: Kaslin

That probably won’t be known for some time. Depends on how the recall efforts do and the elections in 2012 and 2014.


8 posted on 03/15/2011 5:55:18 AM PDT by K-Stater
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I predicted several weeks ago that when the brawl was over in Madison, and the collective bargaining privleges were trimmed, the left would still claim "big victory".
10 posted on 03/15/2011 5:59:44 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
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On December 15, 2010, Rahm Emanuel met privately with Chicago’s labor union leaders:

“The sticking issue for all of us is the pension issue,’said a labor activist who attended the meeting with Mr. Emanuel. ‘ can’t tell my members we are going to support a guy who is going to cut your pensions.’ The labor leader and others who attended the meeting said they did not want to be identified for fear that Mr. Emanuel would retaliate if he were elected.”

Emanuel informs union leaders of intention to cut pensions, not just for new hires..so they kept their members in the dark.

Feb 22, 2011 ... Rahm Emanuel declared victory in the Chicago mayor's race

My Illinois friend remarked: "Rahm knows where the bodies are buried."[an expression]

12 posted on 03/15/2011 6:02:56 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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With the LSM it will be hard for the GOP to get out the correct message. We must keep working hard to get the truth and the fact out there. The libtards own the media.


14 posted on 03/15/2011 6:04:31 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (New Day In America November 03, 2010)
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The key to the public union demise is giving state government employees the right to opt out of automatic union dues collection.

I’m betting that given a choice, at least half will opt out.


15 posted on 03/15/2011 6:10:22 AM PDT by MNnice
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The Tea Party and the people who voted in November won.


16 posted on 03/15/2011 6:10:53 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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“Republicans have done organized labor a great favor by putting the movement back in (the) labor movement, creating a level of passion and activism for workers’ rights that hasn’t been seen in generations,” crowed Democratic strategist Mike Lux.

Republicans didn’t do it. The labor movement and the Democrat party created a situation that almost ended in riots, and almost created a Constututional crisis, all over a change in law that put WI public unions on the same playing field as federal employees and numerous other states. This was completely and purposely orchestrated by people wanting Obama re-elected.


18 posted on 03/15/2011 6:16:00 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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Wisconsin (with other states following) has got the Dems scared big time.

A key provision of Walker's WI law is not only to eviscerate unions' bargaining power but ALSO the state's obligation to collect union dues out of employee's paychecks---(most of which goes to Dem campaigns).

The libs are paranoid that Obama did not join them in WI as he promised he would during the campaign. He couldn't go----B/C he couldn't appear to side with violent union workers intent on keeping collective bargaining "rights" ...rights Ohaha's army of federal employees do not have.

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THIS SAYS A LOT Obama's recent Boston fundraiser started out as a $5,000 a plate then dropped to $500 a plate ... but he still could not fill the room——ended up talking to a little over 100 people.

Heh---nice to see Ohaha between a rock and a hard place. In a word----l-o-s-e-r.

21 posted on 03/15/2011 6:17:57 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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It’s over unions.

Everyone must sacrifice. Your boss says so.

On a side—If the healthcare bill was so great why
are they giving all their friends waivers?


22 posted on 03/15/2011 6:18:19 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: Kaslin

The fair thing to do would be for the Union to give back to the members an amount equivalent to what they give to the democratic party, stop supporting Democrats and or Republicans
and let the Union members support the party of their choice.
I know this make too much sense to be seriously considered by A) the Union, or B)the Democratic party who forever spout fairness. They wouldn’t recognize fairness if it bit them in the ass.


24 posted on 03/15/2011 6:21:11 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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A poll commissioned by the NY Times...right!!! Kindly refer to my tagline. Thank you.


25 posted on 03/15/2011 6:22:56 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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RE :”Polling is equivocal. A national poll by Rasmussen found that 48 percent supported Walker while only 38 percent favored the unions. A highly significant 56 percent of independents sided with the governor. On the other hand, a CBS/New York Times poll found that 56 percent of those surveyed opposed reducing pay or benefits of public employees in order to balance state budgets, and 60 percent opposed weakening the bargaining rights of public employees. Let's stipulate that polls can suffer from tendentious wording. Nevertheless, the public’s response to the Madison imbroglio suggests that Republican budget cutters have not completely made their case. Republicans may need to put greater emphasis on the difference between private- and public-sector unions. In a private-sector company, when unions negotiate with management, there is a limiting factor at work — the company must remain profitable or everyone is out of a job. In the case of public-sector unions, “management” consists of elected officials, and the city, state, or federal government is the employer. Profit or loss is irrelevant, so there is no limiting factor. If unions receive more and more generous pay and benefits, it's the taxpayers who are on the hook, not “management.

The advice above about separating public sector unions from private sector ones politically (conceptually) is smart. Watch the progressives/liberals on MSNBC. They do the opposite and equate rhetorically the public sector unions with all workers. They try to create a picture of ‘the rich’ only paying for the public services like schools and that being overly generous to public workers somehow benefits the private sector worker who ends up footing the bill.

1) Control the message, 2) Split the opposition

26 posted on 03/15/2011 6:31:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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The unions have actually taken out tv ads here in Wisconsin showing supposed union members crying and moaning because their paychecks will now be less since the mean, evil, nasty Tyrant er Governor Walker is making them pay more in contributions to their health and pensions. The fact is they paid little or nothing before, and now they’re bawling because they have to pay a little. The Wisconsin GOP better counter that stuff quick. If the unions are successful in making it look like their nonexistent “rights” were taken away, the unions will ultimately win.


27 posted on 03/15/2011 6:33:22 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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The unions have actually taken out tv ads here in Wisconsin showing supposed union members crying and moaning because their paychecks will now be less since the mean, evil, nasty Tyrant er Governor Walker is making them pay more in contributions to their health and pensions. The fact is they paid little or nothing before, and now they’re bawling because they have to pay a little. The Wisconsin GOP better counter that stuff quick. If the unions are successful in making it look like their nonexistent “rights” were taken away, the unions will ultimately win.


28 posted on 03/15/2011 6:34:56 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Who Won in Wisconsin?

Politically? Taxpayers.

The unions were shown to be selfish, and their win-win relationship with the Democratic party was clearly revealed. Unions IN GENERAL will be tainted from this display by the public sector unions.

Taxpayers are numerically superior to union members, this is a simple question to answer.

31 posted on 03/15/2011 6:36:33 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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The unions and Dhims are pissed off that the Repubs were smarter than they were and used their own tactic of a deft use of the rules to pass the legislation.


32 posted on 03/15/2011 6:38:00 AM PDT by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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