[RobbyS]

Well, it is Southern, for one thing. Whatever the elements that blended together, those of Africans, Indians, and the Anglo-Celt-German whites. That means anti-intellectual, an honor society with a notion of honor quite different from the Northern idea. The Lee brothers went north to go to school, to Yale, and the New Englanders found them to have temperament rather than intellect. No one could accused Robert E, Lee or his sons of lacking intelligence, but it was something leonine about it, something you can see in someone like Mohammed Ali, or Malcolm X. I once saw a documentary about Malcolm. I recall the scene where he is is just out of prison and he is speaking to the public for about the first time. Then an interview a couple of years later. Sheer, raw intelligence. The increase in sophistication stunned me. I can't ever imagine him as a lawyer. He didn't argue; he commanded. A demagogue,of the first water, and in this way he reminded of Tom Watson. Except he didn't drink. Cold, sober and dangerous. George Wallace had some of that, but a different manner. Yeah, to go, back, Southern . What Tom Sowell calls "Black Red Neck."

[muawiyah]

John Leland was a Baptist from Massachusetts ~ nothing Souvrn' about that ol'boy. He seems to have been a missionary sent out to civilize the Souf' though.

In the end he founded African-American gospel music (as well as some pretty free speech).