[calex59]

While I agree with part of your assessment of Private sector Unions you are wrong on several counts a leave out a lot of history in the process. To start with companies of the 19th and early 20th century only had themselves to blame for Unions taking hold. Had they treated their workers fairly, and I am not talking about wages, then Unions would never have been formed. Working people 12-14 hours a day 7 days a week for one thing. Making people pay for tools broken on the job(such as mines making people pay for shovels out of their wages). One of the worse things was making people stand around waiting for delivery of goods, either by horse drawn wagons or, in the 20th century, motor vehicles and not paying them but forcing them to stand around waiting or get fired. They were only paid for the time actually unloading the vehicles regardless of how long they stood around waiting, which in some cases would be 10 or so hours. Also, the habit of bosses firing people simply because they didn't like them regardless of how the worker did their job. These are just some of the things that made people turn to Unions. They were needed at the time and now we have laws that address most of these problems and Unions got way out of hand, but for you to say they were never needed is to blind yourself to the facts as they were at that time.

As I said the companies of this country brought Unions on themselves.

[Doctor 2Brains]

Every word you wrote is incorrect. Read the sources I mentioned when they talk about sweatshops and working conditions, and what is “fair”, etc.

[noinfringers2]

My mother with two young sons,father deceased, was barely able to keep the necessary food on the table. It was the early 1930s when unions were coming on strong. There were many nights Mom came home and cried. She cried not only because she felt discriminated against as an immigrant with an accent not being given some of the good material to work with on piecework( management) but she cried also as a very self determined immigrant who was being bullied by union organizers/thugs to continually be on strike, no pay. I believe Mom ended up being unionized but it never increased her take home pay much,if any. The experiences of those times have no doubt influenced my thought that a person is generally if not much better off to find/do work where they can be recognized for their worth as individuals as contrasted to getting paid on a herd basis. No doubt some people are better suited by character, ambition, greed/jealousy to be members of the herd. And of course there are those like my mother who in spite of desire for free choice get caught up in the web of other peoples ambition.

[noinfringers2]

My mother with two young sons,father deceased, was barely able to keep the necessary food on the table. It was the early 1930s when unions were coming on strong. There were many nights Mom came home and cried. She cried not only because she felt discriminated against as an immigrant with an accent not being given some of the good material to work with on piecework( management) but she cried also as a very self determined immigrant who was being bullied by union organizers/thugs to continually be on strike, no pay. I believe Mom ended up being unionized but it never increased her take home pay much,if any. The experiences of those times have no doubt influenced my thought that a person is generally if not much better off to find/do work where they can be recognized for their worth as individuals as contrasted to getting paid on a herd basis. No doubt some people are better suited by character, ambition, greed/jealousy to be members of the herd. And of course there are those like my mother who in spite of desire for free choice get caught up in the web of other peoples ambition.