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Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe Escalates in Japan – ‘Worse than Chernobyl’
Forbes ^ | 3/11/2011 | Willian Pentland

Posted on 03/12/2011 8:16:13 AM PST by Chunga85

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/japan-quake-nuclear-cooling-idUSLHE7EB02D20110312

Reuters) - A quake-hit Japanese nuclear plant reeling from an explosion at one of its reactors has also lost its emergency cooling system at another reactor, Japan’s nuclear power safety agency said on Sunday.

The emergency cooling system is no longer functioning at the No.3 reactor at Tokyo Electric Power Co’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power facility, requiring the facility to urgently secure a means to supply water to the reactor, an official of the Japan Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency told a news conference.


81 posted on 03/12/2011 2:48:40 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: little jeremiah; SE Mom; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; ..
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. . . . # 80 , and # 81.

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82 posted on 03/12/2011 2:53:08 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

Hi Lucy,

You may want to retract the posting of those two maps, for the following reasons:

The second map has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation. Nothing at all. I’ve seen that map before, and it’s a sample radioactive fallout pattern map in the event of a nuclear war, in which nuclear weapons strike various targets in the United States.

That’s not remotely related to the current situation.

The first map is utter BS. It basically predicts that virtually everybody in at least 1/4th of the entire United States is likely to die, and die quickly, as the result of a reactor meltdown in Japan (and a good percentage of the rest of the US population would probably die not long after).

In order for this to be true, we would have to have a situation roughly one MILLION times worse than the Chernobyl disaster.

Yet all indications I’ve seen is that a WORST-case scenario (which doesn’t seem to be developing) is probably going to be less of a problem than Chernobyl was.

So this map is (frankly) utter bull****, apparently thrown out on the internet by some immature little jerk*** who thought his sense of importance might be enhanced if he could scare some other people out of their wits.

By posting it, you’re only playing into his hands.


83 posted on 03/12/2011 2:56:55 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Chunga85

Even MSNBC is calling BS on this...:

“Chernobyl-Scale Disaster Very Unlikely In Japan, Experts Say”

“...The Chernobyl accident spread radioactive material over a large area, but this was due to a massive fire of graphite in the reactor. The reactor in Japan does not use graphite in the core,” Peter Caracappa, a nuclear engineer at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, told LiveScience.

The Fukushima and Chernobyl facilities also differ greatly in design. “The Japanese reactor also has a containment building designed to contain the products of an accident,” Caracappa wrote in an e-mail. “The Chernobyl reactor did not have one...”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42049337


84 posted on 03/12/2011 2:57:09 PM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: NVDave

I would bet that a few heads will roll over in Japan for not securing the backup diesel generators a little bit better.


85 posted on 03/12/2011 3:04:00 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: LucyT

BREAKING:

CNN now reporting agency in Japan saying meltdown may now be underway.


86 posted on 03/12/2011 3:05:22 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
The emergency cooling system is no longer functioning at the No.3 reactor at Tokyo Electric Power Co’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power facility, requiring the facility to urgently secure a means to supply water to the reactor, an official of the Japan Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency told a news conference.

By the way, I'm not saying the situation isn't serious. It is, and this news is definitely in that category. But a prediction that a third of the United States may well be dying off next week as a result is way off the charts.

87 posted on 03/12/2011 3:08:25 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Hardraade
*If* there’s a meltdown, they should round up the luddite liberals and stuff them in the core. It wouldn’t cool the reactor, but it might cool down the hysteria.

I don't know if that is a good idea. In Day by Day Armageddon, that made the zombies far more deadly and dangerous.
88 posted on 03/12/2011 3:09:39 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

Ding...ding...ding...

We’ve got a winner!


89 posted on 03/12/2011 3:09:58 PM PST by Palladin (Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Trumka: birds of a feather.)
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To: Errant
Beyond Nuclear is unable to reach the Australian Radiation Service (as of 10 AM Sat Mar 12) who apparently released this map, to verify the radiation levels given or to understand how they are derived.

From Google:

Your search - +fukushima +site:australian-radiation-services.com.au - did not match any documents.

Zero commentary whatsoever about Fukushima on the Australian Radiation Service web site. None.

90 posted on 03/12/2011 3:15:45 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
But a prediction that a third of the United States may well be dying off next week as a result is way off the charts.

Whoa...is anyone even thinking that? This is about Japan- not the United States. I've only jumped around some of the threads so haven't seen people predicting Armageddon.

91 posted on 03/12/2011 3:35:10 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

When you look at the BS map (referred to earlier) that shows the western portion of the US being soaked with 750 rads of radiation, and look up the effects of such a dose of radiation, that’s the obvious implication.

Meanwhile, I’ve just been watching live TV from Tokyo. From what I understand, officials have given the Fukushima #1 nuclear reactor accident (the one with the explosion) a severity rating of 4 out of 7.

Some live quotes going on now...

“We believe there will be no danger of massive amounts of radiation...”

“Even without the building, if the container is safe, we’ll be able to contain radioactive substances... this container is firm... we believe radioactive leakage will not happen... we have to make sure it doesn’t boil... we need to cool the reactor...”

They aren’t even talking about the problem with reactor #2 at the moment.

Back to reporting about the quake and tsunami warnings.

Bottom line: nobody I’m listening to sounds like they think the end of the world is imminent in regard to the present situation with either of the reactors.


92 posted on 03/12/2011 3:44:48 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
Pretty strange to say the least.

I found this on their website:

If you would like more information on any aspect of radiation please contact info@australian-radiation-services.com.au

93 posted on 03/12/2011 3:47:56 PM PST by Errant
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To: pnh102
Even Chernobyl didn’t live up to the billing.

True. But I think that this disaster in Japan will bury all hopes for the nuclear power in the U.S. for another generation.

94 posted on 03/12/2011 4:25:42 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Chunga85; All

No repeat of Chernobyl disaster for Japan-experts

http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/no-repeat-of-chernobyl-disaster-for-japan-experts/

“The explosion at No. 1 generating set of the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan, which took place today, will not be a repetition of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster,” said Valeriy Hlyhalo, deputy director of the Chernobyl nuclear safety centre.

He was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying Japanese reactors were better protected than Chernobyl, where just over 30 firefighters were killed in the explosion. The world’s worst civilian nuclear disaster, Chernobyl has also been blamed for thousands of deaths due to radiation-linked illness.

“Apart from that, these reactors are designed to work at a high seismicity zone, although what has happened is beyond the impact the plants were designed to withstand,” Hlyhalo said.

“Therefore, the consequences should not be as serious as after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster.”


95 posted on 03/12/2011 5:36:20 PM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: Milhous

Pay no attention to those steam turbine driven pumps behind the wall.


96 posted on 03/12/2011 5:43:53 PM PST by wolfpat (Veni. Vidi. Veneer: I came. I saw. I made plywood.)
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To: SE Mom

I hope this does not put a dent in the Obama’s lavish lifestyle. I know how much they love that Kobe Beef. /s


97 posted on 03/12/2011 5:53:02 PM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.; All

Seems to me there might be a lot of party line pundit (sheep)/nuclear experts looking for an [EDIT] button. Dopes.


98 posted on 03/12/2011 6:08:25 PM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: politicket

good find - this guy is clueless and has no experience in the nuclear field.


99 posted on 03/12/2011 6:19:14 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: Fire_on_High
It’s disinfo. They’re getting things under control.

That may be true. I imagine it is.

However, there is one thing they do not control. That is mother nature.

I see they had another Earthquake (to add to the hundreds they have already had in the past day) in the 6.1 range.

What if the Earthquakes continue, and get worse? I am not trying to encourage 'fear', just saying we should be aware the place is still rockin and rollin.

100 posted on 03/12/2011 6:53:56 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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