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The schools have them for 6 hours a day, 9 months a year for up to 13 years. Yeah blame them rather than the parents that actually gave birth to the little felons.

It took several generations for the effects we see now to happen. When decency and morals were shunned by society including educators in the 60’s, 70's & 80's and replaced with self esteem and self empowerment, we bred and trained a nation of selfish children, parents and now even grandparents.
Self gratification is foremost for many today and the self esteem training they received 6 to 9 hours a day for 12 years does not allow them to take ownership of anything that requires sacrifice or patience.
95 posted on 03/12/2011 5:35:20 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (For government to give anyone a benefit they must first take it from someone else.)
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106 posted on 03/12/2011 5:57:25 AM PST by wintertime
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When decency and morals were shunned by society including educators in the 60’s, 70's & 80's and replaced with self esteem and self empowerment, we bred and trained a nation of selfish children, parents and now even grandparents.

Think of it as a maturing furuncle. The secular inflammation had been festering since at least my grandmother and Hemingway's day. The abscess merely burst in the late 60s and 70s.

The earliest modern government schools ( mid-1800s to early 1900s) offered up a Protestantism that was sufficiently generic and lukewarm that a majority of voters could tolerate it. While the majority of citizens may have swallowed it, we know what Christ does with the lukewarm. He spits them out of His mouth!

The problem **is** having government schools. The problems started the very first day a modern government school opened.

This week my husband and I watched the movie "In Love and War" about the war years of Ernest Hemingway. It prompted me to think about his books. He was the contemporary of my grandmother. Hemingway was born 1899 and my grandmother in 1894.

My grandmother and father ( born 1913) attended secular government schools. There was a **HUGE** difference between their government educations and that of my Catholic mother and me.

Think about the themes in Hemingway's novels and those of the "Lost Generation" regarding marriage and sexuality. Would Mark Twain or Charles Dickens have written this way? That Hemingway and others of his generation choose to write in this manner reflects their godlessly secular education. The little sprinkle of prayer or scripture in the morning their schools may have offered up, was like aiming a water pistol at raging godless forest fire.

If children attend schools that teach them to think and reason godlessly, they WILL learn to think and reason godlessly. In the very best of circumstances, with strong parents in the home, they might learn to compartmentalize their faith.

130 posted on 03/12/2011 8:24:22 AM PST by wintertime
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