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To: saleman

I do not know what Columbine or the others had in common. I simply do not have a good feeling about college students carrying. The constant stress that students deal with serve as the catalyst to more than likely use the gun for some silly and senseless reason. The more guns there are, the more likelihood one will be fired for some stupid reason. Oh, now don’t cut this last sentence out of context for saying I am for gun control, because I am all for the 2nd amendment. Just not at universities.

A similar question was posed here not too long ago about allowing carry on military bases. I opposed that for similar reasons. Just too much stress which can push someone a bit too far. Yes, I would trust them more on the battlefield than in a public setting where possibly drugs, women, etc., would be in the mix. The focus is different in combat or areas of conflict.

I believe, hell, I know from my own experience years ago, in the military AND college that there is a certain small segment of people that would, yet should not be allowed to carry.


26 posted on 03/09/2011 5:59:26 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper; Joe Brower; Squantos; Eaker; B4Ranch

Campus carry is legal in Utah. You (currently) need a carry permit, which means you have to be 21, pass FBI and UCBI background w/fingerprints and passport photo, and your rap sheet is run on you daily at BCI.

No incidents so far, other than a couple of campus cops getting their pensions threatened for trying to subvert the intention of the law which allows campus carry. Vermont carry (HB129) is currently being considered, but some libtards tacked an amendment on it saying you have to announce you are carrying a gun if you run into a cop. It’ll be voted down if it carries that provision. If it doesn’t pass this session, it likely will next session.

Another provision passed already is that you have to have a permit in your home state to obtain a Utah permit. This is because Nevada reversed reciprocity on our permits, most likely because they were losing the inane amount they charge for one to their enlightened neighbors. There’s logic in there somewhere.


27 posted on 03/09/2011 6:24:16 PM PST by glock rocks (I am Dyslexis of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.)
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To: SgtHooper
I do not know what Columbine or the others had in common.

For starters, they were all gun-free zones.

I simply do not have a good feeling about college students carrying.

You have a "feeling"? That's the only thing gun-grabbers use as their basis of argument to deny this pre-existing right to those that would choose to exercise it. You obviously aren't "all for the 2nd amendment" if you're willing to interject "feelings" to deny that right to others.

Just too much stress which can push someone a bit too far.

Stress is a part of life in general, and is not relegated solely to students in college or those in the military. Down with thee, strawman. There are millions of people that currently legally CC. What part of entering the sacred domain of a university turns the switch on those folks into crazed killers? These people manage to be among the most law-abiding group in all of society, but you believe taking down the gun-free-zone sign somehow changes everything about them? Completely illogical.

32 posted on 03/09/2011 8:03:37 PM PST by cashion
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