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'Birther' foe says Ga. bill gets Constitution wrong
PolitiFact ^ | 3/4/2011 | Loren Collins

Posted on 03/09/2011 10:56:20 AM PST by jdoug666

My, how Georgia’s political winds shift.

By last Wednesday, 93 state House members had signed on as co-sponsors to Rep. Mark Hatfield’s so-called "birther" bill, which would make presidential and vice presidential candidates prove their citizenship to make the state’s ballot.

(Excerpt) Read more at politifact.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertficate; birther; bs; certifigate; lorencollins; markhatfield; naturalborncitizen; obama
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SCOTUS MUST WEIGH IN ON THIS CONTROVERSY! The cowardly Georgia defectors are from the Savannah metropolitan area, feeding at the Obama Federal trough.
1 posted on 03/09/2011 10:56:28 AM PST by jdoug666
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To: jdoug666

Politifact is a far-left operation that has lied about the basics of the controversy, and is fully complicit in the coverup.

On top of that, they are rude.


2 posted on 03/09/2011 10:59:33 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black
Politifart
3 posted on 03/09/2011 11:02:08 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Jack Black
The one thing I can say is that have been forced to retreat from their previous position that the only thing that the "birthers" were arguing about was whether Obama was born in the USA or Kenya.

At least in this article they admit that there is a quesiton whether, even if born in Hawaii, he is a "natural born citizen". They, of course, come down on the side that anything additional requirement to be an NBC besides "born on US soil" is outside the meaning of the Constituiton, but the article admits that it's never been tested in by the SCOTUS.

4 posted on 03/09/2011 11:06:53 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: paul51

POLITIF*CT
“I’d like to buy a vowel...”


5 posted on 03/09/2011 11:08:50 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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My question is simple. If nothing is wrong, why hide as much of your past as possible? Why pay lawyers over $1 million to fight any lawsuit demanding to see the BC? BTW, where did the money come from to pay the lawyers? Govt.(taxpayer) funds? Campaign funds? Would it be illegal to use campaign or taxpayer funds for this purpose?


6 posted on 03/09/2011 11:17:38 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: jdoug666

I really doubt the efficiency of putting this on the ballot, although I do believe that the movement should go forward.

In any of these States, hussein has a snowball’s chance in heck of winning anyway & in the states that will vote for him these measures will not get any traction at all.


7 posted on 03/09/2011 11:21:20 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: jdoug666; LorenC
Great Op-Ed piece by vexatious-researcher freeper LorenC.
8 posted on 03/09/2011 11:23:01 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The AJC Op-Ed article PolitiFact refers to.

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/birther-bill-wont-pass-860210.html


9 posted on 03/09/2011 11:29:29 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: jdoug666

If Georgia wants to add additional requirements for its electors I see nothing illegal with that.

Let us not forget that original and still in principle, States can cast their electors for whomever they want on what ever grounds they want.


10 posted on 03/09/2011 11:30:18 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: shooter223

I have the same questions. If it is illegal for John Edwards to use campaign funds to hide a mistress, isn’t it also illegal to use campaign funds to block access to information that should be readily available to the public (if it exists)?


11 posted on 03/09/2011 11:32:14 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: jdoug666
We must make sure that this NEVER happens again. BOTH major party candidates were not eligible to the office of president and this doesn't matter? Regardless of Obama (not that he isn't important) we need to stand up for the constitution.
12 posted on 03/09/2011 11:40:26 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Great Op-Ed piece by vexatious-researcher freeper LorenC.

About as great as a rat fart.

13 posted on 03/09/2011 11:41:14 AM PST by Red Steel
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"If that [the bill] passes in Georgia’s Statehouse, it will be challenged and it will be struck down as unconstitutional. I am 100 percent confident," said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor.


"Peter J. Spiro
Charles R. Weiner Professor of Law

Peter J. Spiro joined the Temple Law School faculty in Fall 2006 as the inaugural holder of Charles R. Weiner Professorship in international law. Before coming to Temple, Professor Spiro was the Rusk Professor of Law at the University of Georgia Law School, where he also served as Associate Dean for Faculty Development. A former law clerk to Justice David H. Souter of the U.S. Supreme Court,

In a 2007 survey, Professor Spiro was ranked in the top 15 nationally among international law scholars on the basis of academic citation frequency. He has contributed commentary to such publications as FOREIGN AFFAIRS, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, and THE NEW REPUBLIC. He also writes for the leading international law blog, Opinio Juris His recent scholarship can be accessed through his publications page."

-END SNIP-

Another lefty loon. Clerked for Souter and wrote for "the New Republic."

14 posted on 03/09/2011 11:47:25 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Beckwith

Ping.

Our OBot “pal” is being featured at PolitiFact.


15 posted on 03/09/2011 11:49:46 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: jdoug666
As we know, Obama enjoyed sports very much growing up, and it seems that he was a pretty good athlete. One probable reason he was a pretty good athlete was that he might have been a little bigger than other kids his age in Indonesia and Hawaii.

So I'm wondering why Obama never played Little League in Hawaii, and we don't have any pictures of little Obama in one of those cute Little League uniforms.

Could this be the reason: Little Obama rushes home and tells his mother and his grandparents that all his friends are signing up for Little League in Hawaii and he would like to sign up.

But he tells them that he needs an OFFICIAL Hawaii birth certificate, particularly one with the doctor and hospital name on it according to what the Little League officials told him.

I guess you already know where I'm headed: Grandma and grandpa Dunham and Obama's mother sadly tell little Obama that they misplaced or lost his long form birth certificate, so little Obama can't go out for Little League.

I can imagine the severe look of disappointment and confusion on little Obama's face, because he probably doesn't understand how or why his family misplaced his very important birth certificate that he needed to sign up to play Little League with his friends, especially when he he knew that he could be a pretty good Little League player.

My point is this: Presidential candidates should be required to provide an official birth certificate with the state's seal, or how else are we to know that the candidate was born in the United States and that he meets the age requirements? Are we simply expected to take his word that he meets the requirements to be president as outlined in the Constitution?

Just a thought: I would like to see Republican presidential candidates take that extra, courageous step and VOLUNTARILY attach a copy of their long form birth certificate to show the public that they have nothing to hide.

Maybe if several or all Republican presidential candidates VOLUNTARILY attach a copy of their long form birth certificate to their presidential application forms, they will put a lot of public pressure on Obama to do the same.

So I hope that some or all of the Republican presidential candidates take the high road and VOLUNTARILY attach their long form birth certificates to their presidential application form in order to prove to us that they have nothing to hide and that they are who they say they are.

16 posted on 03/09/2011 11:54:55 AM PST by john mirse
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We need to Google "punk" the Naturalborncitizen bookmark link and the BirthCertificate Link to try to get them to show up above the snopes, fackcheck,mediamatters and other lefty links, if possible. I suspect Google has manipulated their results to get those to show up at the top. I wonder if they will do the same when they are someday convicted for helping propagate this fraud?

Post this; http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/naturalborncitizen/index
and this

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birther/index
and this
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertficate/index

on your webpages, blogs, and comments on news articles and then submit it to Google and Yahoo; Google Submit Yahoo Submit

This is what you currently get for the first 3 links on Google.

snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate Is a Certification of Live Birth document provided by the Obama campaign a forgery?

FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A. Aug 21, 2008 ... Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state ... Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, ...

PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter They probably won't replace their pet top 3 links, but if might help.

17 posted on 03/09/2011 11:55:00 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: jdoug666; Danae; little jeremiah; bushpilot1; patlin; devattel
Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow with the conservative Heritage Foundation, said Hatfield’s bill contains a dual-citizenship ban that does not exist in the Constitution.

"It’s trying to add an additional requirement to the eligibility for president," von Spakovsky said.

Wrong Sparky. Having duel allegiances which is having a duel-citizenship is not part of being a natural born citizen. Being a natural born is part of the US Constitution in Article 2.

Collins is right. HB 401 does create eligibility requirements that aren’t in the Constitution. We rule his claim True.

LOL.


18 posted on 03/09/2011 12:03:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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OMG!!!!!

Obots have infiltrated The Heritage Foundation!!

Another solid conservative organization in need of trashing...alert the flying monkeys.

19 posted on 03/09/2011 12:13:59 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: jdoug666

SCOTUS has weighed in by refusing to hear the case for the second time. They are in 0’S bag so this dude must assuredly be block from further destruction - if there is more we can survive.


20 posted on 03/09/2011 12:24:33 PM PST by mcshot (So this is how it feels to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are upon us.)
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