Posted on 03/07/2011 9:37:43 AM PST by wagglebee
Screw you! You are a pathetic troll.
We are talking about parents who want a dying baby to have a tracheotomy so they can take him home to die in peace and EVERYTHING will be paid for by funds that Father Frank Pavone and the Schindler family have raised.
I could not agree more. Michel12 has a disregard for human life.
The parents know the child is dying all they want is a trach so he can die at home in their arms...they are fighting for a trach, not unending hospital care...
Thank you, goat granny. You are so right.
Are you suggesting that Fr. Pavone is not telling the truth? And no, I am not Catholic, but I'm pro-life and I respect Fr. Pavone immensely.
Lord said, "He who loves death hates me." Proverbs
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/02/24/canada.health.dispute/
“Experts say even if the family is granted this request, caring for a child in this condition is an arduous task.
Dr. David Casarett, director of research and evaluation at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wissahickon Hospice, says patients at home with tracheotomies need monitoring to make sure the airway is clear of secretions, the skin is clean and dry and someone can make sure the incision at the tracheotomy site does not get infected.
“A child’s care would be much more complex if a home ventilator is required, since the parents would need to manage the ventilator with the help of a nurse and respiratory therapist,” he said.”
From this I infer that when the sister was dying, they had the help of the Ontario Health services: probably a nurse every day at home, a therapist etc. etc. This is a very sad case but obscuring the cost won’t make it easier to solve.
And I don’t know if you are aware hat there are dangers and complications in the tracheotomy itself. For instance, if it moves, the child could die... It happened to a cousin of mine in an hospital.
So your concern is that the baby Joseph could die?
Baby Joseph will die. His illness has decreed it and there is no possible recovery... The question is when, how and how much it will cost others than his family..
Trying to go against nature is futile! And trying to go against nature by spending the taxpayer money is immoral.
There is no hope of recovery. As simple as that.
The cost is not to taxpayers. And the parents caring for him at home will cost very little, compared to hospital care. And the doctors’ opinions you value so highly are doctors who want to kill him.
You’ve made you position clear; you like the idea of doctors killing people judged not worthy to live.
The Michigan children hospital has baby Joseph file and has decided not to take him as a patient after seeing this file.
http://www.windsorstar.com/denies+baby+Joseph+admittance/4335554/story.html
“The London Health Sciences Centre had sent the child’s medical records to Michigan.”
For a parent it is an act of love for their child, not an imposition. I would do the same for any one of my children or grandchildren in my home.
I have also cared for both of my parents in my home when they were dying of cancer. Mother lived 6 weeks before the multiple myloma took her life and she also had MS, paralysis from the waist down, indwelling catheter and her incision on the spine was opening up due to the fact that the cancer would soon be growing outside of her body and the cancer had spread to the spine and her surgery was for relief of pain and weekly blood work showed she could not receive any chemo to halt the grown the of tumor.
Father went faster and came to my home after surgery for colon cancer was canceled due to his developing acute leukemia and at his age, 85 chemo would have killed him and made his last few days miserable, he refused further treatment and came to my home to die.
what has been your experience with trach’s or is it all theory and what you have read....
Nobody questions that Baby Joseph will die, his parents want him to die at home.
What is your problem with private organizations paying for his care? Do you have an opposition to charity?
Trying to go against nature is futile!
We're all going to die and nearly all of us take steps to postpone it. Do you take vitamins? What about antibiotics? Are you opposed to blood pressure medication? Do you believe that bypass surgery is somehow wrong? Would you tell a diabetic that it's futile to monitor sugar?
And trying to go against nature by spending the taxpayer money is immoral.
The ONLY people talking about taxpayer money are you and the other death panel advocates.
those bellowing about the “cost” are blathering nonsense....this family deserves to live in peace. the canadian crazies are what we have coming here soon enough. that’s not freedom of anything. be warned.
“The ONLY people talking about taxpayer money are you and the other death panel advocates. “
Except that baby Joseph is a Canadian covered under Canada’s system which means that you have to talk about financial considerations as no private organization has covered anything for the moment. The cost has been the Canadian taxpayer’s.
And if there is need for home care it won’t be a private organization that will pay but again the Canadian taxpayer.
So speaking of private organization paying anything is a red herring in this case. Up to now, the only organization who has paid for baby Joseph’s care is the Canadian government.
You may dislike it, but Canada has adopted this system in the 70s if I recall well. Baby Joseph’s family has not renounced the right to be treated free by the state to my knowledge, so the state has a say in his treatment.
You may call it whatever it is, but it is the situation in Canada.
Why do you keep lying that taxpayer money would be involved? Why do you want him to die in a hospital (which costs Canadian taxpayers money) instead of at home with his family?
You are a ghoul.
FYI. The home ventilator attaches to the trach.
Father Frank Pavone and the Schindlers have resources pledged for Baby Joseph's care. All of the talk about wasting taxpayer funds is simply a typical diversion tactic employed by the culture of death.
So from what you say is that if the tracheotomy is performed, the family will need expensive home care for baby Joseph... which will be provided by the Canadian government. This is what I have been saying.
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