Posted on 03/07/2011 9:37:43 AM PST by wagglebee
As I'm sure you know, the now-famous case of Baby Joseph in Canada is becoming critical. He could die in the next couple of weeks if his breathing tube is removed as the hospital and the government intend.
Baby Joseph is only 13 months old and often has difficulty breathing on his own. He needs a procedure called a tracheostomy in order to go home and live under his parents' care. However, the Canadian health care system is refusing to let the family take care of their son -- even though hospitals in the United States have privately said that they would take Joseph in and give him the tracheostomy he needs to survive. U.S. doctors and hospitals who are now familiar with the case are appalled that Baby Joseph hadn't received the tracheostomy 3 or 4 months ago rather than make the baby suffer all this time.
Baby Joseph's parents are pleading with the world for a hospital with the courage to step forward and accept their son for evaluation and treatment. Priests For Life has even agreed to supply medical air transport to and from the facilities. We will support the cost of the hospitalization and after-care including nursing. Home ventilators have also been donated to maintain Baby Joseph if needed.
There are U.S. physicians in Michigan willing to oversee Baby Joseph's outpatient care and assist in weaning him off the home ventilator should it be necessary.
We have yet to find one facility that said it would not perform the tracheostomy on Baby Joseph.
The real problem is that health care providers in the U.S. need Baby Joseph's medical records -- but the Canadian authorities are refusing to release them.
Therefore, I need your help to continue to contact the Canadian authorities so that a proper and humane solution to this problem can be found. We have recently discovered that Canadian law requires the hospital to release these records to Baby Joseph's parents upon request. And to date, they have refused.
This is what is preventing hospitals in the United States from being able to accept Baby Joseph. We need those medical records! And we need them now!
Therefore, I urge you to click here and send an email to the Canadian officials who oversee the London, Ontario hospital requesting that the medical records be released immediately.
We are continuing our search for a hospital in the United States to take Baby Joseph, and they won't do that without the records.
So please send an email to the Canadian authorities -- and at the same time say a strong prayer for Baby Joseph and his parents. Time is running out, so please act now.
Again all you need to do is click on this link and action can be taken in this life-or-death case.
And while you're on your computer, please forward this urgent email to everyone you know, and we may have a strong chance of saving Baby Joseph from a cruel death.
Fr. Frank Pavone
Nationail Director
P.S. There are currently many false reports and rumors in the media that Baby Joseph is in a persistent vegetative state. He's not. He's only 13 months old, and simply isn't getting the care he needs. Any baby would suffer if not given proper care. So please don't listen to the same kind of lies and distortions that caused Terri Schiavo's untimely death.
This is why it so important that the medical records are released so the truth can come out.
Something is fishy... Look here http://www.cpso.on.ca/policies/policies/default.aspx?ID=1686
“Physicians cannot refuse to grant a patient access to their records for the purpose of avoiding a legal proceeding.
If a physician has refused a patient access to his or her medical record, the patient has the right to challenge the physician’s decision in Court under subsection 54(8) of PHIPA. “
The parents are now asking for a tracheotomy... But once in a US hospital they may ask to keep the ventilator on... The hospital doesn’t know what will happen...
As to more than enough money, well if he lives ten months it could get into a million dollars... Did these groups raise as much as that? I don’t know and you don’t either...
The sad truth is that in these times of budget cuts and deficits, hospitals do not want to take the chance. I don’t know what is the answer... It is a very sad story.
Yes, something is very fishy. The hospital is breaking the law. Why do you think they’re doing that?
I don’t know... I don’t even know what is the truth... Everybody has another interest in the story. All one can do is pray for this family.
Are you saying that this baby should be allowed to die in the hospital because of something his parents *might* do, despite having no evidence at all to support your speculation ?
And propagandize against them.
The parents already have a home ventilator. The parents know that Baby Joseph will, barring a miracle, die in the near future, they WANT him to die at home.
The hospital doesn’t know what will happen...
Hospitals NEVER know what will happen and American hospitals make a lot of money treating non-Americans on a cash basis.
As to more than enough money, well if he lives ten months it could get into a million dollars...
Have you got anything to back this up?
Did these groups raise as much as that? I don’t know and you don’t either...
I know people who have been in communication with them and they are not concerned about the money. Those involved in trying to save Baby Joseph's life are very well known and well connected in the pro-life movement.
The sad truth is that in these times of budget cuts and deficits, hospitals do not want to take the chance.
No, the hospitals want to see the medical records. Jackasses like YOU want to make it about money.
I don’t know what is the answer... It is a very sad story.
The best answer for you would be to shut up and actually learn some of the facts before spouting off.
Well said.
I see that you use ad hominem when you don’t have an answer.
It is nice to know that the people who are “ involved in trying to save Baby Joseph’s life are very well known and well connected in the pro-life movement.” except that there is no money to save each and every sad case in the world.
This is the crux of the matter. If the hospital has to spend x dollars for baby Joseph (who is or is not in a vegetative state, I don’t know but who isn’t american) there won’t be money maybe to save your neighbor’s child. Resources are limited, as simple as that. The kind of slogan you use are the ones that created the monstruous deficits that are crushing each and every government in the western world.
We are not speaking of the family paying for care, but of people maybe raising enough money or maybe not raising enough money, leaving the hospital with a tab (I don’t know what are the details - neither do you) which will have to be picked up by somebody, hospitals or US patients.
While I don’t like the triage practiced by canadian hospitals, I understand why they do it - because there is not enough money to treat all and you must chose the one you treat. The chosen ones are the ones most likely to recover. Doctors can make mistakes on which cases are the most likely to recover, but this is what guide them. And I am sure they do their best.
I am sorry for the family but being sorry doesn’t mean that I don’t see both sides of this very sad affair.
On the other hand cursing like you do doesn’t bring any light...
Hug your money close but I've got news....it won't "save" your life.
Do you mean when I used the term "jackass"? I thought I was being kind.
As far as answers go, YOU are the one who came up with the outrageous claims, that means that YOU need to prove them.
It is nice to know that the people who are “ involved in trying to save Baby Joseph’s life are very well known and well connected in the pro-life movement.” except that there is no money to save each and every sad case in the world.
But they DO have the money for THIS case.
This is the crux of the matter. If the hospital has to spend x dollars for baby Joseph (who is or is not in a vegetative state, I don’t know but who isn’t american) there won’t be money maybe to save your neighbor’s child.
Again, NOBODY is asking any hospital to spend ANYTHING.
Resources are limited, as simple as that.
You should try out for one of Zero's death panels.
The kind of slogan you use are the ones that created the monstruous deficits that are crushing each and every government in the western world.
Really? Private groups paying for medical care caused deficits?
We are not speaking of the family paying for care, but of people maybe raising enough money or maybe not raising enough money, leaving the hospital with a tab (I don’t know what are the details - neither do you) which will have to be picked up by somebody, hospitals or US patients.
Actually, we ARE talking about medical care being paid for by private groups.
While I don’t like the triage practiced by canadian hospitals, I understand why they do it - because there is not enough money to treat all and you must chose the one you treat.
If you don't like it, why are you advocating it even when money IS NOT an issue?
I am sorry for the family but being sorry doesn’t mean that I don’t see both sides of this very sad affair.
Don't delude yourself, it is very clear that you only see one side of this matter.
Not at all, something much simpler: there is no money for all the good causes of the world. You have to chose. And you cannot have the taxpayer pay for all the good causes either.
That’s what the poster says.
But, but he isn’t repeating Nazi propaganda. When he says we have to kill Baby Joseph to save money, that’s completely different from the Nazis saying we have to kill the guy in the poster to save money. It’s different because, um, uh, oh well, I forget how it’s different, but it is.
Well, there IS money for Baby Joseph's cause.
And you cannot have the taxpayer pay for all the good causes either.
Then why don't you run along and find a thread that deals with causes that taxpayers are being asked to pay for, because this IS NOT one of them.
“Give up. You can’t win. There isn’t enough money to pay for every good thing in the world. If you pay for this one, we’ll just go after ten more innocents. And it will snowball into more and more dead babies, and murdered grannies, until you have nothing left with which to fight. There will be countless deaths, and it will be all your fault. Because you wouldn’t let us have this one little insignificant baby.” /deathbot rant
It’s obvious that death lovers want people to die no matter who is willing to pay for their care, or even if there is no cost.
It’s the death part they love.
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