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California lawmakers dismissive of aggressive pension rollback
Sacramento Bee ^ | 3/3/2011 | Jon Ortiz

Posted on 03/03/2011 6:08:26 PM PST by dragnet2

Lawmakers on Wednesday reacted skeptically to a controversial new proposal to lower public employee pensions throughout state and local government.

"Frankly, I just don't see this happening," said Sen. Alex Padilla during a joint meeting of committees that oversee public employee compensation.

The Los Angeles Democrat was referencing a week-old report by the bipartisan Little Hoover Commission that calls for radical changes to public pensions to keep them from "crushing" government.

....suggestion would let state and local officials unilaterally freeze current employees' pension benefits and then reduce pension credit earned for future years on the job.

But the crisis is so dire and growing so quickly, the Little Hoover report says, that government can't wait for decades for a lower pension benefits for newly hired workers to take hold. It needs to cut what it pays for current employees. Current retirees' benefits would remain untouched.

The conclusions were based on nearly a year of research and testimony from a wide variety of pension experts and interest group representatives.

"Well, while we appreciate (the report), policy recommendation without legal analysis doesn't always do us a whole lot of good," Padilla said.

...the Little Hoover report on Wednesday's agenda, the hearing chamber was packed and an overflow crowd spilled into the hallway.

Public pension officials took turns criticizing the commission's pension-change idea.

Jack Ehnes, CEO of the California State Teachers' Retirement System, called the proposal a "meaningless recommendation" that "punts policy to the courts."

Union representatives who were invited to speak to lawmakers also pounced on the Little Hoover report.

"It's unwarranted and unfair," said Labor Coalition Executive Director Dave Low

"If you reduce pensions you're going to reduce the supply of people available to do this job," said Craig Brown, who represents state correctional officers, among other public employees.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


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They spent a year on the study, and this arrogant Sen. Alex Padilla just blew off Little Hoover study..

The Los Angeles Democrat was referencing a week-old report by the bipartisan Little Hoover Commission that calls for radical changes to public pensions to keep them from "crushing" government.

1 posted on 03/03/2011 6:08:36 PM PST by dragnet2
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Lawmakers on Wednesday reacted skeptically to a controversial new proposal to lower public employee pensions throughout state and local government.

Every private sector American should recoil in anger at this utter government arrogance and betrayal.

2 posted on 03/03/2011 6:11:05 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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This implosion would be fun to watch if I didn’t know in my heart the Baraqqis will eventually make me help pay for it.


3 posted on 03/03/2011 6:13:11 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

You’re already in the hole for 14 trillion....

Just one trillion is 1000 billion....

BTW, you worrying about CA is like worrying about the neighbors burning their toast, while your own home is fully engulfed in flames...


4 posted on 03/03/2011 6:17:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Brown was the one who gave them the right to unionize and bargain collectively. Why would he reverse course now?


5 posted on 03/03/2011 6:19:36 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: nascarnation

“Baraqqis will eventually make me help pay for it.”

I personally think that would touch off a civil war. We aren’t going to bail out California. At least not with our eyes wide open.


6 posted on 03/03/2011 6:21:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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Where did it say he was reversing course?

Won’t happen. It will simply take the people telling government to f off.

Of course, what government doesn’t quite get, is most are broke...No money for more taxes to pay for governments lottery style retirement pensions, bloated wages and tax paid benefits..

This is going to heat up, more than most would ever imagine....And not just in CA.


7 posted on 03/03/2011 6:25:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Brilliant

My view is it won’t be a direct welfare handout.

It will be the FedGov (aka taxpayers) guaranteeing Calif (and NY and Illinois) bonds.


8 posted on 03/03/2011 6:27:03 PM PST by nascarnation
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We aren’t going to bail out California.

How would Florida bail out CA when your own pension funds are broke? lol...

9 posted on 03/03/2011 6:28:41 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

see my post #8


10 posted on 03/03/2011 6:30:35 PM PST by nascarnation
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It’s nothing that a massive tax hike can’t fix (and we were going to do that anyway.)

Now if you’re done bugging me - I have to get back to the hard work of taking your freedom.

Have a nice day. *flips you the bird*

-the California Legislature


11 posted on 03/03/2011 6:37:19 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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Thank dragnet2.


12 posted on 03/03/2011 6:41:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: nascarnation

Won’t happen...Relax...Everyone is broke...lol


13 posted on 03/03/2011 6:41:43 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I’d take that bet, but as a poor fixed income retiree I need every buck I have to buy gas to get to the casino, LOL.


14 posted on 03/03/2011 6:45:41 PM PST by nascarnation
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Nah. Believe me, they aren’t.


15 posted on 03/03/2011 6:47:08 PM PST by Brilliant
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States can't print their own money.......... but the feds might do it for them.

There is little to no hope for CA. Even if when they collapse and try to rebuild, they will still have the same cast of characters to deal with..... permanent dem leadership, unions, illegals, etc.

16 posted on 03/03/2011 6:53:21 PM PST by umgud
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Corretion, there is little to no hope for CA Government...

Again, the tax base has been substantially reduced and most are broke, so it’s *government* which collapses...

A good thing! We’ve been waiting a long time for this.

Other states to follow...


17 posted on 03/03/2011 7:01:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: umgud

BTW, if the feds ever did bail out CA, they have to do the same for 30+ other states...


18 posted on 03/03/2011 7:04:43 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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"It's unwarranted and unfair," said Labor Coalition Executive Director Dave Low

Boo freakin' hoo, Dave. It's totally warranted and fair -- especially for the taxpayers.

19 posted on 03/03/2011 7:12:49 PM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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Alex Padilla....
The Calif version of Maxine Waters—only Hispanic.


20 posted on 03/03/2011 7:24:36 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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