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Federal Workers Thrive Without Collective Bargaining (WTF!)
Fox News ^ | 3/01/11 | Chris Stirewalt

Posted on 03/03/2011 4:42:10 PM PST by Libloather

Federal Workers Thrive Without Collective Bargaining
By Chris Stirewalt
Published March 01, 2011
FoxNews.com

When the president of the United States takes time to denounce a single bill in a state legislature as an “assault on unions,” one might be forgiven for thinking it contains some groundbreaking stuff.

But, in fact, the controversial plan in Wisconsin and similar legislation in Ohio, Tennessee and elsewhere would in many ways treat state workers the same as employees of the federal government.

For all of the thunder we’ve heard from the president and his party about union busting, what’s been proposed is more akin to bringing the federal standard to the state level.

The Republican plan for states has two key elements.

First, government worker unions would lose the power of collective bargaining for benefits and work rules. Pay rates could still be bargained for, but in Wisconsin, anything beyond cost-of-living increases would go before state voters in a referendum.

The lack of collective bargaining power hasn’t put much of a damper on federal compensation. Federal workers out-earned their private-sector counterparts in the same jobs by an average of more than $7,000 according to a USA Today report. And on benefits, federal workers brought in, on average, over $30,000 more than those not employed by the feds -- $40,785 vs. $9,882.

Second, state agencies could no longer be “union shops.”

In Wisconsin and many other states with collective bargaining for government workers, state employees have no choice as to whether or not to join a union. If a majority of workers has ever voted to organize an agency, everyone in the section is shoved into the union. The state then automatically docks workers’ paychecks for union dues, which are then handed over to labor leaders.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: federal; thugs; unions; wisconsinshowdown; workers

1 posted on 03/03/2011 4:42:12 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The Feds are so corrupt they do not need it.


2 posted on 03/03/2011 4:44:46 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Libloather

Those promo’s should have been used for toilet paper...


3 posted on 03/03/2011 4:45:17 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1
Once the FORCED Membership in the Unions is removed, they are toast.

Forcing everyone to join a Union is somehow seen as "fair"??????

4 posted on 03/03/2011 4:46:30 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Libloather

Why would they need CB? Obama is shoveling our cash at them as it is.


5 posted on 03/03/2011 4:46:43 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Libloather

No union for me,why would I give up my 7 weeks paid vacation.


6 posted on 03/03/2011 4:50:21 PM PST by mdittmar (i)
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To: Libloather
Same old BS from FOX. Not a single federal employee makes as much as any of the FOX Newsbabes ~ and yet, you can wander through those halls and see lookers that make the gals at FOX look like a platypus.

Oh, yes.

Notice the lie told by FOX ~ "private-sector counterparts in the same jobs" ~ and yet, the private sector, particularly the FOX "counterparts" do earn more, not less.

That old goat who owns FOX makes sure of that!

7 posted on 03/03/2011 4:51:13 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: muawiyah

Please help me out here....name the government news agency anchor that gets paid less, and looks better than their Fox News counterpart. And how much do the Fox News anchors make, if you please.


8 posted on 03/03/2011 5:10:13 PM PST by I am bigjohn
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To: I am bigjohn
I'm not talking about federal "newsies" but just federal women. There are some STUNNERS in there, and that's the job profile I was comparing.

I have no idea why you think those Stalinist warhorses that do news flak stuff for the federal government would be interesting ~ do you?

Just any federal office ~ go in there ~ wander around ~ you'll see some TOP QUALITY CHICKS!

9 posted on 03/03/2011 5:13:38 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: screaminsunshine

Federal employees are under the Hatch Act which, among other things, forbids political activity on the job. No mandatory union membership. Not a member, no money to the union. No union dues money can be spent on political contributions, only voluntary donations to the PAC (which can’t even be talked about on federal property). If only this was done at the state and local level, things would be a lot more reasonable.


10 posted on 03/03/2011 5:15:21 PM PST by Bonneville
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To: muawiyah

The comparisons were being made between private sector and their public sector “counterparts”. I just couldn’t ever remember seeing any government news agency on my television.
...but then, I don’t get all the channels either.


11 posted on 03/03/2011 5:18:40 PM PST by I am bigjohn
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To: I am bigjohn

Certain women are hired for certain jobs for certain reasons. Murdoch doesn’t have the best of ‘em but he pays well (so I’ve heard).


12 posted on 03/03/2011 5:23:09 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: Bonneville

I am sure they are well paid, because without them - the pols don’t get their interventionist policies implemented. It’s like extortion...

And, the “real income” for some of these Fed workers is the eventual revolving door benefits - consulting salaries on the “outside” with pressure groups is quite lucrative I’m sure, once you have “experience” on the inside (bureaucracy). . .


13 posted on 03/03/2011 5:48:33 PM PST by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: I am bigjohn
“I just couldn’t ever remember seeing any government news agency on my television.”

First one I found. I think this kind of stuff is mostly an “on base” kind of thing, but I seem to recall some cable networks showing it if there was a base in the local area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTmfcBoWkmk

14 posted on 03/03/2011 5:52:33 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: muawiyah
Same old BS from FOX.

Okay, watch CNN then.

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

15 posted on 03/03/2011 6:22:49 PM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: rdb3

You humorless apparatchik. You didn’t read the thread.


16 posted on 03/03/2011 7:14:05 PM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: muawiyah
I get it, Mua.

But I guess I've spent a little more time in federal bldgs than most.

17 posted on 03/04/2011 11:43:55 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

We also know the standards for hiring the good looking chicks too.


18 posted on 03/04/2011 11:47:58 AM PST by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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