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To: SampleMan

>>But what about YOUR property rights? Or YOUR self-defense rights? If your right to be armed is recognized as inalienable/inherent then they are necessarily not-repudiatable;
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>Whoever told you that you get practice any right you want wherever you want needs to have their teaching certificate taken away. Your rights stop, where anothers start.

Wha? There’s NOTHING that violates *YOUR* rights by my defending my own life; is there?

Furthermore, I certainly *CAN* go onto your property [let’s assume invited] and spew off radically offensive crap —it wouldn’t be polite or proper, true— and that would not be violating ANY of your rights at all. (There is no right not to be offended; except if that is your goal you can achieve if by becoming dead, as the dead are immune from being offended.) Now, let’s assume that I’ve worn out my welcome, as should be if I was acting as such a lout, you *STILL* have the right to revoke your invitation, you *STILL* have the right to force me off your property WITH VIOLENCE if I do not accede to your “unvitation.”

But let’s assume that I’ve been a good guest instead; you contend that I have no right to defend myself on your property; what happens if, say, your big mean drunken brother in law comes over with his big mean drunken biker-gange and they decide to “have some fun” — according to you I would have no right to fight them off of me. That’s just fucked-up man. I *YOU* have disarmed me then certainly morally [and presumably legally] *YOU* are responsible for my safty and well-being. Are you getting the idea?


49 posted on 03/01/2011 8:13:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Furthermore, I certainly *CAN* go onto your property [let’s assume invited] and spew off radically offensive crap —it wouldn’t be polite or proper, true— and that would not be violating ANY of your rights at all.

Want to give it a try??? We'll see how that works out for you. Indeed, coming onto or staying on someone's property when they want you to leave is a violation of their rights. So much so that it is illegal, aka, criminal trespass.

When I tell you, "You may come to dinner, but keep you mouth shut. I don't want to hear single word about your Nancy Pelosi fantasies." that is what is known as conditional entry. When you start going off about Nancy, you are no longer welcome and you MUST LEAVE. Because you have no right to be there against my wishes, you de facto have no right to do ANYTHING there.

Other conditional entry would be:
- Don't bring your dog.
- Wear a suit and tie.
- You must be totally silent.
- No soliciting.
- No spitting.
- No smoking.
- No cross dressing.

Its truly, amazingly simple. If you don't like the rules, don't go in and if rules that you don't like come up after you are already in, don't stay.

They teach this stuff in kindergarten.

64 posted on 03/02/2011 5:21:29 PM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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