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To: circlecity
"Whoa, now you've changed it entirely. I never said it was a sin or even a bad thing to tithe -

I never said you said it was a sin or a bad thing to tithe. Where do you get that?

"I said giving is up to individual conscience. Which covers everything you brought up in your post. I've never hinted that if someone wants to tithe as a personal matter that I would discourage him in any way. If someone was quite wealthy then 10% may not be enough. If someone is very poor 10% may well be impossible."

In post # 57 you said,

"There is nothing in the passage that even hints at an obligation to tithe among Christians, rather, we shouldn’t lie to other Christians. Thus, I am still waiting, show me anywhere in the NT where Christians have an obligation to tithe. (Don’t waste too much time looking because it’s not there.)"

So why did you even mention lying or that you were 'still waiting' for a NT reference for an obligation to tithe if you weren't quarreling w/ him?

"That was wrong as I've pointed out by Paul's very words on the matter. This issue arose when someone said it's a sin not to tithe."

Are you saying that one can't meet an obligation they feel compelled to meet cheerfully? If a brother believes that not tithing is a sin, then it is a sin for him.

"I see no basis for this statement. Compelling someone to tithe would be wrong - by Paul's own words God wants happy givers. If Timothy choose to be circumcised in an effort to "be all things to all people" so as to assist Paul in evangelizing Jews in first century Asia Minor that was his choice but he had no obligation to do so and it would not have been a sin had he chosen not to do so."

I said the man felt compelled to tithe and it was sin for him not to. I assumed that the implication that the Holy Spirit was the one who compelled him was obvious, just as when Timothy 'chose' to be circumcised. You seem to be able to assume that Timothy made his choice freely and in the Spirit but that the tither cannot do the same.

If a brother believes that not tithing is a sin, then it is a sin for him. If you think you are the stronger Christian and do not need to tithe, then why do you quarrel with what you consider the weaker Christian over disputable matters?

175 posted on 02/28/2011 3:18:16 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
"If a brother believes that not tithing is a sin, then it is a sin for him. If you think you are the stronger Christian and do not need to tithe, then why do you quarrel with what you consider the weaker Christian over disputable matters?"

I'm not quarreling with anyone's decision to tithe no matter what their compulsion to do so. I'm quarrelling with an assertion that it's a sin NOT to tithe for those who do not feel so led by the Holy Spirit. That this is a false statement of doctrine is not a disputible matter. It was the original poster who asserted the false imperative and pointing it out is not quarrelling with him over his personal choice to do so if he desires.

176 posted on 02/28/2011 3:28:47 PM PST by circlecity
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