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Oh, To Be A Teacher In Wisconsin
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| 2/25/11
| Robert M. Costrell
Posted on 02/25/2011 6:29:48 AM PST by harpu
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What these numbers ultimately prove is the excessive power of collective bargaining. The teachers' main pension plan is set by the state legislature, but under the pressure of local bargaining, the employees' contribution is often pushed onto the taxpayers. In addition, collective bargaining led the Milwaukee public school district to add a supplemental pension planagain with no employee contribution. Finally, the employees' contribution (or lack thereof) to the cost of health insurance is also collectively bargained.
As the costs of pensions and insurance escalate, the governor's proposal to restrict collective bargaining to salariesnot benefitsseems entirely reasonable.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:29:50 AM PST
by
harpu
To: All
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:31:37 AM PST
by
harpu
( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
To: harpu
The average Milwaukee public-school teacher salary is $56,500, but with benefits the total package is $100,005,Idiot teachers don't even realize they are being used to perpetuate the Union bosses' gravy train.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:33:23 AM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: harpu
What these numbers ultimately prove is the excessive power of collective bargaining.You are correct. At 50 cents of every dollar in salary going to HC, it also shows that someone does not know how to shop around for a good deal on HC insurance. The number equates to $28K per employee for HC, and this is extremely high. I wonder who's pockets were lined with that overpayment.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:34:48 AM PST
by
mlocher
(USA is a sovereign nation)
To: harpu
Also state worker pay is 60% of the WI state budget, leaving a mere 40% for the rest of the state taxpayers. Worse, every year, these same teachers’ unions come back for more, forcing raising local property taxes in each school district.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:37:33 AM PST
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: Texas Eagle
Remeber, the annual salary is for 8-9 months of work.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:39:36 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
To: Texas Eagle
Remember, the annual salary is for 8-9 months of work.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:39:52 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
To: mlocher
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:43:51 AM PST
by
PogySailor
(The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
To: harpu
The industrial, textile labor unions,etc. caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs. Industry after industry was destroyed by greedy and criminal labor unions. The public service unions are even worse, they are destroying not only their states, but the education of your children. Americans, you best wise-up and get rid of these labor union parasites and their Democrat lock-steppers, including socialist/communist POTUS Barack Hussein Obama.
To: mlocher
"...it also shows that someone does not know how to shop around for a good deal on HC insurance." That's exactly what the UNION Bosses are afraid will come to light. Their 'sweetheart, kickback deals' with the HC providers.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:46:54 AM PST
by
harpu
( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
To: harpu
See my link above. The Union IS the Healthcare provider for most districts.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:49:52 AM PST
by
PogySailor
(The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
To: harpu
The whole idea of employment benefits, both pensions and health care coverage, has become toxic. It was never a good idea in the first place. Everybody's incentives get screwed up when compensation is anything other than cash for today for work today. The tax code, the health care system the balance sheets of governments has have all been decimated by the stupid idea of job benefits.
The whole idea of not just getting paid, but cared for - sometimes long after no longer working, infantilizes the populace and corrupts the executive or politician negotiating compensation.
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:50:26 AM PST
by
Minn
To: mlocher
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posted on
02/25/2011 6:54:07 AM PST
by
Daisyjane69
(Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
To: harpu
Now that the tax payers have woke, I doubt this will stand much longer! he, he!
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posted on
02/25/2011 7:04:34 AM PST
by
devistate one four
( AARP: Anti America Retired People Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
To: harpu
If the average TEACHERS salary is $56,000 how much is the average ADMINISTRATORS salary?
Lies, Damed Lies, and Statistics.
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posted on
02/25/2011 7:14:37 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(Job #1 is to DEFUND THE LEFT~!!!!)
To: mlocher
I wonder who's pockets were lined with that overpayment.80% of the school districts are required to use only ONE provider ... WEC Trust. Follow the dollars ... How did ONE provider get 80% of the business. How did such a non-competive system come about. Who owns WEC?
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02/25/2011 7:17:35 AM PST
by
SeeSac
To: Daisyjane69
If you read this, your hair will be on fire, kiddo...Thanks, and thanks for the warning. (Do you have a fire extinguisher?)
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posted on
02/25/2011 7:25:32 AM PST
by
mlocher
(USA is a sovereign nation)
To: harpu
And don’t forget, additional expenses in the form of matching social security payments, unemployment insurance, etc. would raise this total considerably!
Years ago, as an employer paying $6.00 per hour with absolutely no benefits or perks, my costs to employ someone ran up to $10 per hour!
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posted on
02/25/2011 7:25:45 AM PST
by
gnickgnack2
(QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
To: harpu
And don’t forget, additional expenses in the form of matching social security payments, unemployment insurance, etc. would raise this total considerably!
Years ago, as an employer paying $6.00 per hour with absolutely no benefits or perks, my costs to employ someone ran up to $10 per hour!
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posted on
02/25/2011 7:26:01 AM PST
by
gnickgnack2
(QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
To: Texas Eagle
"...Idiot teachers don't even realize they are being used to perpetuate the Union bosses' gravy train..."
Most of them likely don't care as long as they get theirs. You hear a lot of people on their side making statements such as salaries and benefits got where they did because it's what the market can bear
In a different setting (such as a baseball player earning a salary) I would be more willing to buy that
however in this case, there is no market that will bear what they are being paid. That's all taken out of the equation by the collective bargaining agreements
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posted on
02/25/2011 7:27:05 AM PST
by
rlmorel
(The Interstate Commerce Act...The Swiss Army Knife of Constitution Shredders everywhere!)
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