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1 posted on 02/23/2011 4:36:18 PM PST by dont_tread_on_malik
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What is it about its “unconstitutional” the Justice Department doesn’t understand?


2 posted on 02/23/2011 4:37:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I hope he finds them in Contempt; as he CLEARLY told them the Ruling was in essence an Injunction, and they thumber their noses at him and are continuing to implement Obamacare. The hiring of more than 15,000 more IRS people in the Budget, to handle the Obamacare ramifications, CLEARLY shows they could care less about what the Judge told them. Likewise, when Holder/Obama decided that DOMA is Un-Constituitonal, they are FLAGRANTLY and BLATANTLY telling the Courts that The Messiah will decide what Constituional means.


3 posted on 02/23/2011 4:39:48 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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So they can understand the health crimes bill but not Judge Vinson’s entirely logical & legally correct ruling?

Basically, the law does not nor did it ever legally exist. It may exist in fact, but not legally.

Thus, it’s unenforceable.

It’s like going to Vegas, getting bombed & waking up married to a stranger. You go to court, plead you were not of sound mind, judge rules the marriage annuled.

It never legally happened.

You don’t then have to go out & get a divorce. There is no marriage to disolve.

Very much the same type of legal effect here. As a matter of law, the health crimes act does not exist.

Pretty simple.


6 posted on 02/23/2011 4:41:37 PM PST by jazminerose (o)
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The communists party is in control of America. Civil War on the way.


7 posted on 02/23/2011 4:41:37 PM PST by Logical me
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His first decision was clear as air.

Their delay tactics are going to start to bug the judge.

One wonders what an irritated Federal judge might say and do in response to incompetent counsel.


8 posted on 02/23/2011 4:45:15 PM PST by lurk
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just another ruling/law for his highness to ignore.. laws and rules are for the little people.. Moochelle says “Let them eat short ribs”..


10 posted on 02/23/2011 4:47:25 PM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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Good for Judge Vinson, he’s a man of few words when he knows he’s being stroked, a three day extension is too much though:)


11 posted on 02/23/2011 4:48:41 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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So now we officially have two words whose meanings are not understood in Washington DC: “is” and “unconstitutional.”


14 posted on 02/23/2011 4:54:39 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (An election is not a (national) suicide pact.)
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We these kids you have to use small words and speak street talk.


15 posted on 02/23/2011 4:58:14 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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Later


18 posted on 02/23/2011 5:00:34 PM PST by I_be_tc
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Hurrah Judge Vinson! Courage you have and will need, as the regime comes at your ruling legally and I’d assume illegally; eg., harassment, IRS and threats... I pray for no Arkansaside.

Everyone should be aware that key people opposing the socialization of USA are going to be pressured, including life threatening measures. There are many score hundred billion dollars of foreign money, transferred out of USA, coming back to fund these many faceted efforts. IMHO...


19 posted on 02/23/2011 5:05:05 PM PST by veracious
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He did not issue a clear injunction, and is now shocked Obambi and the fedgov ignored him. Sorry, the judge should be smarter than that. More than likly he was trying not make to much fuss.


22 posted on 02/23/2011 5:27:44 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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He-he. It seems like there's a lot written between the lines of his latest order:

"Hey States, hurry up and submit your motions. You don't need to worry too much about it... just get it to me quick as you can so I can b!*ch slap these suckers so hard their momma cries."
23 posted on 02/23/2011 5:31:43 PM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the first dumbass Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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Look at the issue that Holder and Obama have decided to today the 14th is quoted for the 5th Amendment in the DOMA. a clarification is needed for Obama and Holder to understand injunction and the entire ruling is null and void and unconstitutional. Come now Obama states he graduated from Harvard Law School, he is a Constitutional Scholar whom taught at the University of Chicago. Look at the 14 th amendemnt the issue of citizenship is in the same paragraph as the equal protection and due process clause. Come now Holder and Obama you need a clarification. really are you this dense. Do America a favor Holder and Obama turn yourseves in as the frauds and charlatans you truly are. Let the US Marshalls do you a favor, arrest you for your own criminal stupidity.


28 posted on 02/23/2011 5:50:48 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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Instead of the judge giving them the normal 2 weeks to reply, he changed it to 3 days instead, haha)

Under the Local Rules of this court, the plaintiffs would ordinarily have fourteen (14) days in which to file a response to the defendants’’ motion. However, because time is of the essence in this matter, and because everyone in this country would obviously benefit from certainty and final resolution of the case sooner rather than later, I do not think it necessary or appropriate to adhere to the briefing schedule that would normally apply. Accordingly, from the date of this Order, the plaintiffs shall have three (3) business days in which to file their response in opposition to the defendants’’ motion.


37 posted on 02/23/2011 6:12:25 PM PST by HollyB
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http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/145861-states-judge-meant-to-halt-implementation?tmpl=component&print=1&page=


41 posted on 02/23/2011 6:29:31 PM PST by Praxeologue (io)
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I support the judge’s ruling and hate to throw a little legal cold water, but here goes.

1 This was a single federal district judge, and other district courts have given the opposite ruling. Therefore, I wouldn’t expect everyone nationwide to follow this ruling. Everyone knows the various appeals courts will have to rule, and probably the Supreme Court, before this is resolved.

2 Because you have officials as far away as the Alaskan governor saying they WILL follow this ruling, it is normal for the Admin. to ask for a clarification of the judge’s view of his ruling’s effect.

3 The Admin. figures that IF the judge says he has shut down Obamacare nationwide, the appeals court will probably suspend that order right away until it has time to review the case. This is a good strategy because right now they don’t have any injunction to appeal.

4 The judge knows all this that is why he only gave the PLAINTIFFS (the guys on our side) three days to respond.

5 The judge may surprise you and decide not to issue an injunction, recognizing the court of appeals will want time to review this. Or he may see an injunction as the logical next step but he knows the circuit court will reverse him, and that will be seen as an Obamacare victory.

6 All the talk about armed men and courts having no power is nonsense. we have a very sophisticated legal system and everyone involved knows the fat lady will not be singing until well down the road. This preliminary maneuvering is normal.


44 posted on 02/23/2011 6:50:16 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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Along these lines, the precedent of deciding not to defend DOMA, has implications for Obamacare:

"Presumably, under this logic President Palin won't defend ObamaCare in court. Of course, President Palin won't veto a repeal of ObamaCare, either."

Hat tip to Just One Minute.

45 posted on 02/23/2011 6:52:45 PM PST by cookcounty (STOP Obama's War Against Children!)
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someone should file a Birth Certificate case in his court...


48 posted on 02/23/2011 7:11:31 PM PST by phockthis
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This is going to be GOOD.


53 posted on 02/23/2011 7:49:07 PM PST by politicalmerc (I TOLD YOU I could see November from my house. Now I see 2012!!)
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