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Video case reflects generations' great divide (musician faces 20 year sentence for youtube prank)
Mlive.com ^ | 02/20/11 | Cindy Fairfield

Posted on 02/21/2011 10:29:38 AM PST by Gena Bukin

Regardless of whether a judge or jury finds Evan Emory guilty of a sex offense for creating a lewd video with schoolchildren in the background, the case has highlighted a cultural divide between the so-called Millennial Generation and pretty much everyone else.

Many of the Millennials — mostly young adults without children — wonder what all the fuss is about. So Emory made a video with Ravenna elementary children in the background looking surprised and smiling a lot. They say since Emory sang a harmless “Lunch Lady Land” song to the children during his actual performance and subbed in lyrics with sexually graphic references afterward, before posting the video to YouTube, that no harm was done.

These Millennials see the video as a joke and comedy, and even if some admit the video was in bad taste, they believe no crime was committed. This kind of thing is on comedy shows and MTV all the time, they reason. And it’s certainly on YouTube, the social networking site that allows anyone to post a video of almost any kind for the entire world to see.

They are outraged that Emory, who was a good student himself at Ravenna and never got into any trouble, is facing a 20-year felony charge of manufacturing child sexually abusive material. They can’t fathom that Emory, if convicted, is facing the possibility of having to be on the sex offender registry the rest of his life when he didn’t actually “expose” the children to anything.

Then there is the opposite spectrum — those who are horrified that someone would find humor in using children as a backdrop for a sexually explicit song. Whether the children actually heard the lyrics or not is beside the point, they reason, because it was the children’s innocent faces that were shown smiling and giggling when Emory’s nasty words were heard by hundreds and perhaps thousands of people before the video was removed from YouTube.

The parents of the children on the video are especially horrified, and as a parent, I can’t blame them. It would make me sick to my stomach to see one of my children placed in a situation like that. Many of them think the charges fit the crime, though it’s pretty clear that a 20-year felony for something like this is way over the top.

Still, the Muskegon County Prosecutor’s office wants to make an example out of Emory so they went after the “big” charge. And Ravenna Superintendent John VanLoon probably echoed the sentiments of many folks when he said: “If you think that’s something funny, you really need to review and look at your personal values.”

Which brings up a bigger challenge in this age of technology. There was a time when you could limit the kind of garbage kids are exposed to — a time when TV programming didn’t allow even partial nudity and there weren’t hundreds of cable channels from which to choose, smart phones, the Internet and social media. Today there is no place to hide and despite the best efforts of parents, kids are influenced by all these contraptions they can access almost anywhere, anytime.

According to Wikipedia, the Millennials have been shaped by the rise of instant communication technologies and are “peer-oriented.” Reality TV, MTV, YouTube and the like have helped to desensitize teens and young adults to the difference between right and wrong.

Many young folks seek the instant gratification and star quality so prevalent in society today. And they seek it without considering the consequences.

Which, at least, might explain the cultural divide this case has highlighted — even if it doesn’t provide a good way to fix it.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: babyrapist; chestermolester; childsexvideo; evanemory; monster; moralabsolutes; pedophile; pervert; youtube
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To: truthfreedom

Why are you so concerned with what DUers think of us? Why do you know so much about what they think? Why do you share their opinions about pedophilia?


181 posted on 02/21/2011 3:55:04 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

I’ve been here since 2000. Never been zotted.

They were in a video. Since we’ve never seen it, we can’t call it porno or not. Still not sure where the bad thing happening is.

But I get the argument that you’re using. You’re calling everyone a pedophile who doesn’t think that “pedophilia” and “making a video” are the same thing, and deserve the same punishment, even though the law treats those 2 wildly different things wildly different.


182 posted on 02/21/2011 3:57:13 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: little jeremiah

Unfortunately States Rights de facto ended when Lee handed Grant his sword at Appomattox.


183 posted on 02/21/2011 4:04:56 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: wtc911

Those shows are on TV. They’re funny shows.
They aren’t child porn which is illegal.

Telling children how to make meth was funny. It was a funny sketch. But it had nothing to do about sex.

If they want to ban Hollywood from showing fags, that’s fine. But if there’s no law against showing fags, they shouldn’t go to jail for doing it.

I think the problem I have is that some here, like yourself, are completely unaware of what is going on in the outside world.

Also, you might need to understand the difference between these 2 entirely different things.

1) Things wtc911 doesn’t like

2) illegal things.

Sometimes they overlap, but sometimes, things you don’t like aren’t illegal.

My argument and the argument of any rational person here is that people shouldn’t go to jail for things that aren’t illegal, even if you don’t like it.

The Hollywood AntiChristians should be knocked on their butt. They’re the ones who influence the local youtubers.


184 posted on 02/21/2011 4:06:30 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Um, no, you don’t get it. Try reading what I wrote.

You can pretend there’s nothing pornographic about it, but we all know better. Just because you like the pornography doesn’t mean it’s no longer pornographic. Children’s anuses are not for inserting your fingers. For you to suggest that the only thing wrong with that is that the children’s parents weren’t paid is pretty disgusting.


185 posted on 02/21/2011 4:06:54 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: wtc911

Have you seen this video? I haven’t.

The “people” the “children” weren’t paid.


186 posted on 02/21/2011 4:11:16 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

So reading filthy and sexually explicit lyrics isn’t sufficient to know that it’s pornographic? You want us to see it? Why would any moral person want to view pornography, especially when it involves children?


187 posted on 02/21/2011 4:13:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: truthfreedom

Why do you keep dragging in the “the kids weren’t paid”? Who cares? You mean if they were paid it would be okay or not okay? Payment has zero - nothing - zilch - to do with this.

Nothing.


188 posted on 02/21/2011 4:14:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You and other people are smearing all freepers who understand the difference between pedophilia and video production. To accuse someone of pedophila is actionable. I can’t remember which is which. Libel or Slander. Whichever.

I’m just smart enough to tell the difference between the pedophilia and video production.

If you want to get worked up about something, take a look at the Hollywood AntiChristians and knock them on their ass.

People like you make normal people think Conservatives are idiots. And you libel people. Sweet!


189 posted on 02/21/2011 4:17:37 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Gena Bukin
lewd video with schoolchildren in the background...highlighted a cultural divide between the so-called Millennial Generation and pretty much everyone else.

I hear trash like this person are making "crush videos" where they do things like put a high heel spike through a live kitten's skull.....

They do it to lure children wanting to see kitty videos to shock them.

.....And they think it is "funny".

Some in this latest generation are sick. The same can be said for other generations, but this one has busted down some walls that were verboten to bust before.

190 posted on 02/21/2011 4:19:12 PM PST by SteamShovel ("Does the noise in my head bother you?")
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To: little jeremiah

If the children were paid there would be a breach of contract with the altered video.


191 posted on 02/21/2011 4:20:01 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Jazz1968; little jeremiah; metmom; wagglebee
You have no idea what I have been through.

Looks like you've been through the viking kitty's digestive system.

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192 posted on 02/21/2011 4:21:02 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: little jeremiah

Not leftists, but Hollywood AntiChristians.

If you want to knock Hollywood AntiChristians on their butt I won’t complain.

But I’m much much more concerned about Hollywood AntiChristians than a random youtuber.


193 posted on 02/21/2011 4:21:25 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: DJ MacWoW

no idea what Tru Blewer is.


194 posted on 02/21/2011 4:23:01 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: little jeremiah

If you have no interest in mass media, why are you here, complaining? Youtube clips are minormedia.

Hollywood AntiChristians are bringing you the massmedia.


195 posted on 02/21/2011 4:25:37 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Now why would you care about libel or slander? Just because someone depicted you as enjoying a pornographic video, without paying you for that depiction? You weren’t harmed by that depiction. So quit your whining.


196 posted on 02/21/2011 4:25:37 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: little jeremiah

Well, this comment I can’t disagree with.


197 posted on 02/21/2011 4:27:19 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: BykrBayb

What are you talking about?

Putting people in jail for making videos that people don’t like isn’t the core message of FR.


198 posted on 02/21/2011 4:29:26 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: little jeremiah

eh, i gots no problem with whatever the state wants to come up with.


199 posted on 02/21/2011 4:31:27 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: little jeremiah

You’re saying the same thing over and over. You’re the only person who is objecting however. you’re the only states rights guy on this.

From a political perspective, there’s votes to be gotten in attacking Hollywood AntiChristians.


200 posted on 02/21/2011 4:35:27 PM PST by truthfreedom
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